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Topic: Subwoofer theft!
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Erika Hellgren
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posted 05-30-1999 01:44 AM
HELP! At my theatre in Denver - a 16 plex - we have had, to date, nine subwoofers stolen. Sometimes the theif takes the whole box, sometimes just the cones. The management and the police are pretty clueless, but we seem to agree that it is most likely an inside job. Personally I suspect the janitors are at least partially responsible, but I can't prove anything. I personally check all doors and subs before I leave every night, but I feel very helpless. The company is not willing to spend any money to prevent any future robberies, so I am hoping that someone in this forum has some advice about what I can do about this. Any ideas are welcome. I am desperate to keep from losing any more subs, especially with all the big summer movies coming up. I believe our theatre is the best in town, but without subs, it'll be hard to hold that honor. Thanx in advance, guys!
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Scott Norwood
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posted 05-30-1999 01:45 AM
Trade your subwoofers in for Altec Voice of the Theatre loudspeakers! I guarantee you that no one could possibly carry A-7s or A-4s out the door in the middle of the night. *grin*
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Greg Mueller
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posted 05-30-1999 01:45 AM
Maybe you could engrave some ID numbers (phone, name etc) on the frames of the subs. How about putting "property of..." across the cone (visable side) it might make the theives (and their buyers) think twice about having them in their possesion. If they ever get busted (for something else)you might get them back. If your plex has only a few doors you could get some security cameras (hidden) to watch the suspect route. Maybe dummy cameras would do the job. If you use the hidden camera idea you'd have to keep it secret from ALL of your employees. Maybe you could put up the dummy cameras and then watch them with the hidden cameras to see who disables them. Or (I like this one the best since I absolutely loath theives) wire about 440 volts ac to the frame of the subwoofer with a metal plate on the floor so the theif can complete the circut. Poof!
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Brad Miller
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posted 05-30-1999 01:46 AM
How about getting a HUGE piece of plywood (I'm talking 4'x8' and 3/4 inch thick) and literally bolt the subwoofer cabinets down to it from the inside? For someone to steal them, they would have to completely disassemble the driver and unbolt the cabinets from the board. Unfortunately, that won't save your drivers from being stolen. I like Greg's voltage idea for that.
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Frank Manrique
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posted 05-30-1999 01:51 AM
Erika, Just how small are the subs thieves keep on stealing? Two of our main subs-for right and left channels weight over 300 Lbs. and look like coffins (and about as large). I'd like to see a thief get away with that! Anyway, the subs should be bolted down somehow. All bass drivers should have all mounting bolts replaced and Locktite'd. All bass drivers should have their cones, as already sugested, painted with perhaps your theater's logo and/or an ID number of sorts. The idea of security cameras is a good one and it should be implemented, particularly if "in house" theft is suspected (by the janitorial crew members you mentioned). As far as other places within your theater go, well I can't comments since I have no idea where or what it is. Good luck
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Joe Redifer
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posted 05-30-1999 01:57 AM
I like painting the logo on each and every cone. Good idea. While it does not gaurantee they won't be stolen, it makes it less likely. One problem is that the area behind the screen is dark and they may not see the "emblem". But if they steal 1 cone then they probably won't try again. But the idea is not to have ANY of them stolen. Maybe try hanging the subs from the ceiling The voltage idea is the best I have heard, though. Although it may not be legal! Neither is stealing subs, so 2 wrongs make a right!
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Brad Miller
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posted 05-30-1999 01:57 AM
This one probably isn't legal either...but a friend suggested this and I kinda liked it! Get a bunch of razor blades! Super glue them around the edges of the sub boxes. Anyone trying to steal them won't be able to get a good grip on the box without slicing the crap out of themselves. Also, with it being dark, will probably cut them before they even get the first screw out. Then just look around for scars! I agree with Joe...two wrongs make a right. ha ha
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Tim Reed
Better Projection Pays
Posts: 5246
From: Northampton, PA
Registered: Sep 1999
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posted 06-23-2000 08:59 AM
This is why I don't like putting subs on the floor.>>the theatre company refuses to spend any money, so security cameras are out. << Well, looks like they'll either pay for cameras or they'll pay for subwoofers, it's their call. Pay now or pay later. I wouldn't worry about it, particularly if THEY'RE not. Let 'em lose them ALL, if that's their attitude. ------------------ Better Projection Pays!
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Randy Stankey
Film God
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From: Erie, Pennsylvania
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 06-23-2000 09:26 AM
Two other thoughts occurred to me. This time, serious...1) Think about the "He doth protest too much" theory: If a particular person is hesitant to put in cameras, could it be possible that he is somehow involved? You've also gotta' consider that many companies secure what they can and insure for what they can't. Maybe the bosses figured that it's cheaper to take the insurance route. (Until the insurance company stops paying the claims) 2) Think about the patterns involved:
What times/places do events occur? Connections between things that get stolen? People that seem to "know" about things like this but shouldn't have access to this kind of information.
In other words..
Does it always happen when a certain guy works? Does he (or his friends) always seem to know the gossip? Could the culprit be trying to steal himself a complete set?
If you think about things, you MIGHT be able to predict when he'll strike next and be ready for him.
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Kevin Crawford
Expert Film Handler
Posts: 207
From: Sacramento, CA, USA
Registered: May 2000
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posted 06-23-2000 12:06 PM
The best bang for the buck is the theft proof screws. We started using them after the second sub was stolen. We have never had the cabinets stolen though. I would say that if they have the balls to carry a cabinet out the door, that it is definately someone that works there. If you are that upset about it you could spend the night up in the booth and watch through the port glass. When you see someone taking the speaker out, call the police on a cell phone. While they are loading it up in their truck, the cops catch them. See if you can't get news coverage of it. I will guarantee that if you make an example of them , odds are that all theft at your theatre will stop. Or you could just shoot them. Although I do like the electrocution idea. By the way, what type of subs are they, and when will they be unguarded?
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