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Brian Paymer
Film Handler

Posts: 31

Registered: Jun 99

posted 06-13-1999 12:07 AM

I was wondering which splicing tape is the best. Our supplier changes all the time and many of the rolls stretch and won't come off when we try to peel it off. Any recommendations?

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Mitchell Cope
Master Film Handler

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From: Overland Park, KS, United States
Registered: Jun 99

posted 06-13-1999 08:35 AM

I don't know which is tape best, but I have a related question. I have a Hollywood splicer that cuts 8 perfs (4 perfs each edge) per operation. The splicing tape I got from a cinema supplier (supposedly standard) is just wide enough to require 10 perf cuts (5 perfs each edge). This causes me to have to do one extra operation. Should a standard splice be 4 or 5 perfs long?

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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99

posted 06-13-1999 01:52 PM

Personally, I think ALL splicers should cut and punch 8 perfs wide (4 perfs each side of the cut). If Neumade would change their design enough to allow for the extra width tape, theirs would be the best. As it is, Neumade's only splices with the standard 5 perf wide tape. But to answer Mitchell's question, I've seen splicers that only punch one perforation on each side, so I don't think it matters too much as for reliability.

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Brad Miller
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posted 06-13-1999 01:55 PM

Personally, I feel the Neumade tape wins out in durability and ease of removal. Quick splice tape (manufactured by Hudson Photographic) is probably the best tape to use for archival splices, as it is extra thin, applies evenly, but does not peel off as easy as Neumade.

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Christopher Seo
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From: Los Angeles, CA
Registered: Jun 99

posted 06-13-1999 03:16 PM

Exactly my sentiment. When the splices end only partway through the frames, the edges of the tape are often clearly visible in the projected picture as horizontal black lines. Is that the reason you prefer the 8-perf splice, because it would put the tape edges on the framelines and therefore be more invisible? And what is the best splicer that currently does this?

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Brad Miller
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posted 06-13-1999 05:03 PM

I'm not aware of a splicer that uses unperforated 8 perf wide tape. Although, if anyone knows of such an item, I would be extremely interested!

Yes, my main beef with the typical splicers is the black tape edge that is sometimes visible. However, if tape is only ordered in rolls of 8 at a time, the vendors will send you an unopened package direct from Neumade. Then, simply don't take the rolls out of the package until it is ready to be loaded onto the splicer. Sitting the rolls of tape on it's edge is where most of the dirt is picked up and projects as a black line.

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Scott Norwood
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posted 06-13-1999 07:05 PM

The best splicing tape I have used is the Neumade clear tape, as others have said. It's strong, easy to peel, and looks good on screen. I've also had good luck with the tape from Christie's Editorial in Burbank, CA, but their prices are a bit too high.

Whatever brand makes the opaque white tape is definitely my least favorite because of the difficulty of peeling (especially important for getting that opaque junk off of prints that arrive from careless projectionists).

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Joe Redifer
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posted 06-13-1999 08:22 PM

I would have to agree that the best tape is the Neumade clear (not zebra). Very durable. and also very easy to peel off when breaking down a print, and it does not leave any kind of residue on the film like some other cheesy tapes.

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Christopher Santapaola
Film Handler

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From: Gloucester, MA, USA
Registered: Oct 2001

posted 12-14-2001 09:57 AM

I have just recently posted on this same subject a little while ago.

How long have you all been talking about this????

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Not sure where it is now.

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Gordon McLeod
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From: Toronto Ontario Canada
Registered: Jun 99

posted 12-14-2001 01:01 PM

The much maligned

CIR is available in a 8 perf version and Frame to Frame is probably the most used wide tape
Over all I find the tape made for Jack Roe (UK) the best In the US it is Marble or CPI and many dealers buy in bulk with there own logo on it

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John Pytlak
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posted 12-14-2001 02:26 PM

By using an 8-perf tape splicer and 1.5 inch wide splicing tape, the edges of the tape fall on the framelines, making the splice even less visible on the screen.

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Greg Mueller
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posted 12-14-2001 02:36 PM

Neumade clear

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Mitchell Cope
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From: Overland Park, KS, United States
Registered: Jun 99

posted 12-14-2001 06:19 PM

John said,

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By using an 8-perf tape splicer and 1.5 inch wide splicing tape, the edges of the tape fall on the framelines, making the splice even less visible on the screen.

Sounds great, but could I pull that wide of a tape easily and then apply it evenly without any air bubbles?

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Gordon McLeod
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posted 12-14-2001 07:41 PM

It usually isn't a problem working with the wider tape

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Mitchell Cope
Master Film Handler

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From: Overland Park, KS, United States
Registered: Jun 99

posted 12-14-2001 11:36 PM

I'm curious, how wide is the splicing tape for 70mm film?

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