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Topic: Survey...very important, please read
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Brad Miller
Administrator
Posts: 17775
From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99
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posted 09-24-1999 08:03 PM
I am conducting a survey here for everyone in the US who has to deal with the Technicolor film shipping depot.A couple of years ago, I was told by a fellow by the name of Joe Habbermell at Technicolor that I was to "play whatever damn print he sent me". Needless to say, this was over an extremely poor used print that had played once at a screening and had green scratches...he would NOT replace it. According to him, it "would be impossible for a print to be scratched and damaged from just one run". I don't know if this (colorful metaphor removed) person is still with the company, but I get the feeling I am still on his dump list for daring to climb the chain of command further than the ladies who answer the phones at 4 in the morning. In short, I get used screener prints ALL THE TIME! In most cases, they are damaged beyond the presentation standards of my theater and must be replaced. In the 5 or so years TES has been around, perhaps 3 or 4 used prints have been acceptable. The reason is these trade screening theaters KNOW they will receive a brand new print come the opening date and they just RIP the thing off the platter and pay NO CARE WHATSOEVER to the film's handling. Most used prints have scratches after ONE RUN! So let's put this in simple terms. A given movie has perhaps a dozen prints made which are circulated around for various trade and press screenings. Then comes the actual release date with a few THOUSAND prints. What are the odds every other print sent to my theater will be a used screener print? I mean REALLY...WHAT ARE THE ODDS??? At this point, I would like to point out that in the 5 years of ETS's existence I have only received ONE used screener print from the ETS depot. Seriously, doesn't that sound more like realistic odds to receive a used screener print? Therefore, would everyone please respond to this thread as to what your individual theaters receive. Bear in mind, a major release which was "sneaked" the weekend before should not count, as typically half of the prints are used. I'm talking about FIRST RUN theaters opening the movie on the ORIGINAL BREAK date without nationwide sneaks the weekend before. Also remember, I am referring specifically to the hideous orange cans containing reels that won't stay together that are a staple trademark of the Technicolor depot. Please keep responses similar to the ones below and make them all in respect to Technicolor depot prints. *Never get used prints (this is the one I'm betting everyone will respond with) *Perhaps one used print a year *Receive used prints all the time Your assistance will be GREATLY appreciated in proving a point! Thank you all.
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Thomas Ferreira
Film Handler
Posts: 23
From: Claremont, NH
Registered: Jul 99
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posted 09-25-1999 09:37 AM
In dealing with TES since their inception as film distributors, the only used print I've gotten on the national break was Thomas Crown. I still can't figure out why they pulled prints after a sneak, when most of the venues that sneaked it had it booked anyway. The broken reel problem is my biggest complaint. I can't tell you how pissed I was last week when making up Love of the Game and I sliced my finger open on a shattered reel that there was absolutely no excuse for them to use. By the way, when does everyone receive their prints? I usually get TES prints at 4:00 on Thursday afternoon, which is adequate build up time if I'm not running mats, but everything else(Paramount, WB, New Line, etc.), is delivered by a direct courier that also delivers our concession supplies. These prints usually show up anywhere between 7 PM and 2 AM on Thursday night, which is inconvenient. I for one would love to have all Friday breaking prints on Wednesday.
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Erika Hellgren
Expert Film Handler
Posts: 168
From: Denver, Colorado
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 09-26-1999 05:12 PM
I have to confess that I don't get ETS prints on Wed either At my old theatre, which is only about 6 miles from where I work now, we used to get them on Wed without fail. But, I think I can understand the delay - Denver Shipping handles all the ETS deliveries for the entire Denver Metro area, and we have ... let me count ... at least 25 theatres in our city, two of those being 24 plexes. Although, on the other side of the coin, ETS doesn't deal with as many studios as TES, so ... Plus, since we are a 16, we should take precident over the 5's and 6's. Oh well, TES still bites
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Thomas Ferreira
Film Handler
Posts: 23
From: Claremont, NH
Registered: Jul 99
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posted 09-26-1999 10:15 PM
As far as I know, all of the prints in New Hampshire, where I am, as well as most of Vermont and Massachusetts, with the exceptions of TES prints, are delivered by Gene Boyle, and have been for years. I'm not sure what Boyle's routine is for Mass., but NH and VT have always been Thursday. Still, if quality service counts for anything, I'd still rather have all my prints delivered by Boyle than by Technicrap. At least if there's a problem with delivery, I can can someone who knows what he's talking about. I've never had a problem with Boyle or his drivers-I'd rather use them than Airborne any day.------------------ Tom Ferreira Manager/Projectionist Claremont Cinema Claremont, NH
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Randy Stankey
Film God
Posts: 6539
From: Erie, Pennsylvania
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 09-29-1999 11:40 PM
At TT17 we almost always get brand new prints. (Unless it's a re-booking or a sneak.)Last used prints we got were: Outside Prividence. (We got it second week instead of opening.) Thomas Crown Affair (Sneak) Ideal Husband (Late booking & a re-booking) All of them except the re-book of Ideal Husb. were in good condition. (Obviously used but clean as can be expected and well-spliced & no scratches, except for an occasional thin, black one but it only lasts for 1 min or less.) However... Love of the Game, Stigmata, Stir of Echoes and one other one that I can't remember ALL had to have reels replaced. I've been "yelling" at everybody to inspect every foot of all TES prints upon build-up, lately because there seems to be a 'rash' of crummy prints lately. (Maybe a new hire in the lab?) To their credit... the reels come when they say they will and we have had no 'missed pick-ups" in about the last year. We started keeping a log of all film deliveries and pick-ups. -- When they called us an asked/hollered at us, "WHERE'S OUR PRINT OF.......", we just fired back, "That was shipped on 9/29/99 @ 12:45PM & 'Joe Blow' was the driver....." --- They quit calling us MONTHS ago and we haven't heard a peep out of them since! (Maybe we should start logging crappy reels, too!)
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