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Topic: Porthole size preference
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John Walsh
Film God
Posts: 2490
From: Connecticut, USA, Earth, Milky Way
Registered: Oct 1999
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posted 11-02-1999 10:26 PM
Ours are 16" x 16", the THX type (two peices of glass on an angle.) I like this size: I just put a peice of thick black poster paper with the exact cut-out for the projector image on the window. This keeps stray light from going through, but if you change projectors, you can cut out another peice. And there's plenty of room for different height pedastals. Also, it's pretty handy to have a large enough window to remove and lean out of. At another theater, the guy there made a nice sort of bellows that sticks a little on the inside and outside. This keeps a work light from shining down on people almost directly under the port.In the carbon days (here in my state) the law was: no port will be larger than 144 sq inches. At an old theater we had, the port was 12" square. But when we twined it, we needed a much shorter focal length lens, so we had to shim the projector height high enough to fit the image through.
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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!
Posts: 12814
From: Annapolis, MD
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 11-03-1999 09:57 AM
I figured that the Megaports were born out of people that just couldn't figure out where to place the port in relation to the projector and screen thus said "if I make it big enough, it is bound to get out no matter where I put it!"I think the port size should be in harmony with the image going through it. If a 12x12 does it, fine, then 15x20 or 18x18 should cover just about any of the rest. The view ports, which I think should be separate, should be 12x12. Projection ports should be on _CLEAR_ coated glass (particularly if it is of the new double glass design) As to the light in the booth. Most booths are put in nowadays with florescent fixtures which just aren't needed or desirable. The projection equipment should be lit with "bullet" fixtures that can be aimed to the work area, not the audience. Any wall behind a port should be painted BLACK. The overhead lighting should either be down-light or even better, indirect and reflected off the cieling so you have plenty of light in the work area and none going out the ports (except for the projection beam, hopefully). The front walls of the booth (providing that there isn't a set of ports on the other side) can be painted a bright color to help with lighting. Steve
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Jim Bedford
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 597
From: Telluride, CO, USA (733 mi. WNW of Rockwall, TX but it seems much, much longer)
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 11-03-1999 11:11 AM
I have to see that we have seven screens for the Telluride Film Festival. All our booths are permanent installations and since we do substantial productions for all our programs, I want the booth glass as large as possible so those in the booth can see what is going on down on the floor. We have to be careful with light pollution, but it's worth it in order for everyone to be on the same production page.But, since in much of the world it seems as if the last thing many projectionists do is look at the screen, why isn't there a move to make the ports larger so the operator can easily see the screen to check for picture quality. I know they are supposed to, but I've been in so many theatres that the film has come up in the wrong format, out of frame or out of focus, it seems that if there is anything that can be done to get operators to look at the screen it should be employed. Work lights can be designed to reduce pollution into the auditorium and glass can be properly fitted to reduce noise pollution. Look at it this way, when you're driving a vehicle, the larger the windshield, the better your vision. Don't smaller ports simply turn an operator inward and make him/her even less aware of the world outside? If ports were larger as a standard, operators would have to be more careful and aware of the audience. I'm not talking about the "Brad Miller Level of Attention," I'm talking about the other 90% of America's screens.
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Ian Price
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1714
From: Denver, CO
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 11-03-1999 12:16 PM
Jim,The Telluride Film Festival has big port glass because there could be a wide variety of formats shown. Let's see, in the last 3 years, the Festival has shown 16mm, 35mm, 35mm double system, 35mm two projector 3D, 70mm, 70mm two projector 3D, video with the Digital Projection 8GV, Video with the projector hung on the basket ball bracket, slides and some sort of 18th century oil lit glass plate slide thingy. Did I miss anything? New slogan for next years tech T-shirt. Vespucci Pictures Tech Crew, We change film formats more often than we change our underwear. It makes a lot of sense to have the large port glass. I noticed in the new Chuck Jones Cinema that you purchased a 7' long optically perfect sheet of glass. I heard it cost 7 large. It looks great. I know that at the festival we spend a lot of time chasing down all stray light. As evidence look at all the cardboard that I have taped on to the projectors at Minnie. The large port glass may be beneficial when theatres start the transition to electronic cinema. But that would be an infinitesimal cost saving. I prefer to have two small projection ports for all the reasons Joe mentioned. It is good to be able to turn on the lights in a commercial booth in order to troubleshoot. In the theatre that I am about to take over, there are small ports that are home made. You know the type; they are two pieces of ½ x ½ inch wood strips in which glass from the hardware store has been slid. The glass is scratched and there is a half-inch gap between the glass and the top of the frame. I am sure you can hear the projectors out in the auditoriums. I'll just have to add new port windows to the list of improvements we are going to have to make.
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