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John Walsh
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From: Connecticut, USA, Earth, Milky Way
Registered: Oct 1999
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posted 01-22-2000 09:36 AM
It depends on the impedance of the amp output and the impedence of the speakers. They have to match, or the amp can be damaged. However, usually you do not have an odd number of speakers. Also, usually, you do not wire more than 2 speakers in parallel. Usually, it is a sort of combination of wiring them in both series/parallel. Which means you can not just run one pair of wires around the auditourium, and hook speakers to it. I say usually a lot beacuse there are different amps, speakers, and wiring methods.If you tell us what the impedance of the amp output is (look in the amp book; it can probably operate at several) and the impedance of the speakers, we will tell you how to hook it up. But, be prepared to either drop, or buy one speaker. Also, try to use thick wire, like 14 ga romex, which is approved in most buliding codes.
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John Walsh
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posted 01-22-2000 12:34 PM
I looked in the instruction manual for the QSC models USA 400, USA 900, USA 1310. The specifications on amplifier output are only defined down to two ohms. I would assume that since there are no spec's below two ohms, it's not recommended.Five 8 ohm speakers in parallel comes out to 1.6 ohm. That already below the minimun. Since impedance is usually defined at 1kHz, in actual operation, it could get much lower. This is taken from the instruction manual for the QSC models USA 370, USA 850, USA 1300: "The USA series amplifier has adequate current capaiblity to fully drive loads down to two ohms. However, many high performance 8-ohms loudspeakers, especially multi-way systems with passive crossovers, have impedances at some frequencies which are far lower than the average rating. (snip) For this reason, impedance curves should be consulted before connecting speakers in parallel. (snip) Two ohm loads should be approached with caution, as there is no further margin for impedance dips. (snip) For these reasons, operation with two ohms loads should be tested throughly before being put into use." I'm assuming that for this application, where it says, "two ohms," it means at two ohms or less. I don't have a JBL or EAW manual, (who is EAW?) but I encourage you to check this out before actually turning everything on. 5 8 ohm speakers in parallel seems to not be recommended by QSC.
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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!
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From: Annapolis, MD
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 01-22-2000 07:41 PM
Okey Dokey...The only QSC cinema amp that is rated to 1.6 Ohms ( at the momenet) is the DCA1222. In fact, it was designed with just that in mind so connect up! A series/parallel connection is really to be avoided if possible...the series connection will muddy up the bass a bit. As a fun experiment at home...try putting a power resistor in-line with your speakers and hear what happens to the bass. Some people even like the effect. The USA line of amps (and the remaining series 1 amp, the 1400, which is the USA 850/900 with a different input module) really should be targeted for 4-8 Ohms. At 2-ohms they will tend to breath rather hot out of the front of the amp. The MX line (my favorite) is just fine down to 2-ohms as are the rest of 2-channel DCA amps. The new 4-channel DCA amps offer other options (besides the obvious Surround-EX implications) in that one can break the surround array up to avoid impedance problems without going to a series connection. Also, one can have front and rear zones to better balance the level of the surrounds with the stage channels as one moves back in the auditorium. Steve ------------------ "Old projectionists never die, they just changeover!"
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John Walsh
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From: Connecticut, USA, Earth, Milky Way
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posted 01-26-2000 09:52 PM
First, my apologies to Devriendt. I didn't notice he said that there already was a QSC amp that would take 5 parallel speakers. An app note of the amp and it's use is at: http://www.qscaudio.com/pdfs/cnmappnt.pdf And thanks to Steve for bumping the topic (and me!) in the right direction. Although the QSC page is a little confusing: the DCA 1222 amp's spec page says down to 2 ohms, but the app note says it can go to 1.6 ohm. Ya gotta admit, 1.6 ohm is a little unusual! Also, if I remember correctly, impedance won't always split correctly with speakers wired in series. The slightly different mechanical characteristics of each speaker effect it while in use. I think, anyway (trying not to eat too much shoe-leather!)
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