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Aaron Mehocic
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 804
From: New Castle, PA, USA
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 02-09-2000 11:27 AM
Oh, Randy, that's so Pennsylvanian!When I don't blow them up in the lamphouse we have three ways of disposal: 1. Wrap the bulb in a blanket or burlap sack (more than one will be needed), and throw a cemment block on it from a fair distance while turning away from the explosion. This works well and is very safe. 2. Wait until your garbage men empty your dumpster. Open one lid and place the bulb free of any caseing on the other, MAKING SURE it is not going to roll off. Now grab a 10-12 feet pole and push the bulb into the dumpster. The fall will explode the bulb and the dumpster will contain the glass. Not a bad method, but must be done in a large dumpster by someone who knows what they are doing. 3. Shoot them from about 100 yards away with your trusty .22 WRF rifle. An OK method if the owner of the property on which your disposing the bulbs doesn't care about guns or glass. Years back we had a booth tech who asked us to save the bulbs and he would break them for safety purposes. Most of the guys in the booth were right out of high school and the manager strayed away from anything but talking to customers. I guess Jerry just didn't want to see anybody get hurt. He was a good man.
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Randy Stankey
Film God
Posts: 6539
From: Erie, Pennsylvania
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 02-09-2000 06:03 PM
Okay, you can only take them out back and shoot them if you live in an area where people are used to hearing gunfire.When I'm not being a Pennsylvania redneck, I just put them back in the 'clam shell' and put that back in the box. Then you just throw the box down on a cement floor real hard. From my experience busting xenons in various ways, as long as the bulb is cold, the main danger is from flying glass. It's USUALLY not even enough to go through a heavy, corrugated cardboard box. I said USUALLY! I have seen some of the larger pieces of schrapnel actually stick into the box. I recommend that IF you are going to perform these kinds of experiments, you situate yourself far enough away that you won't be in the "zone of destruction". (On open ground that's at LEAST 5 - 10 yards. -- Double that just to be extra safe.) I guess what I'm trying to say is that many people treat xenons like they're little bombs. (It probably serves people well.) Granted, if you get near an exploding xenon you should expect to be a little bloodied up. Also, the shreds of glass are like little razor blades and needles... VERY sharp! I would always wear gloves and face shields when handling a xenon in any state, hot, cold, busted or not busted. If you don't have an apron, at least wear a good, heavy jacket. PS: If you decide to go out and play with xenons, I DIDN'T tell you to do it! If you get hurt because you didn't take precautions, I'll only say, "I told you so!"
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Barry Martin
Expert Film Handler
Posts: 203
From: Newington, CT USA
Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 08-31-2002 08:29 AM
I just store the bulbs in their boxes (plastic case as well) until I get about 10 or 15 saved up. Then I take them outside, usually with another person to look out for anyone nearby. Usually do this after midnight. We go out to the back of the theater, where there is this area enclosed by 3 walls, with the entrance 50 feet away (where the guard person is). The compactor is also out here, so it is convenient. I just lob the bulb, inside the plastic case and box into the air to have it crash on the concrete next to the compactor about 20-30 feet away from where I'm standing. I haven't had glass penetrate the box yet, but I'm sure it can happen. I have been told by one technician that the tungston should be recycled properly as it is a hazardous material, but wasn't sure of the validity of this statement especially after reading someone's post on here about giving it to one of the kids. Of course, the theater trained me to throw them away with the glass, but that doesn't necessarily make it correct in my opinion. ------------------ "The greatest thing you will ever learn, is just love and be loved in return." Barry C. Martin IATSE Local 182
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John Pytlak
Film God
Posts: 9987
From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 09-03-2002 12:07 PM
Here is the NASA Glenn Safety Manual (NASA John Glenn Space Research Center near Cleveland Ohio, which uses xenon lamps to simulate solar radiation) for proper handling of xenon lamps: http://osat-ext.grc.nasa.gov/gso/manual/chapter_26.pdf Without proper eye protection, an exploding xenon lamp may be the last thing you ever see! As to the rest of your body, even if you are lucky enough not to sever a major blood vessel, quartz shrapnel cannot be seen on an x-ray, so the doctors will have a hard time picking the shards out of your body. Just something to think about before you handle a xenon lamp without protective gear. ------------------ John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7525A Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA Tel: +1 585 477 5325 Cell: +1 585 781 4036 Fax: +1 585 722 7243 e-mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com Web site: http://www.kodak.com/go/motion
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