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Randy Stankey
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From: Erie, Pennsylvania
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 02-16-2000 11:30 AM
Is Photoguard that 3-M "Scotchguard-for-film"??Well, if it is I've got some. When we ordered our "title strip" trailers they came with that junk on them. It makes the film look real glossy-looking. You can actually see the stuff. It looks like a thick varnish-like coating. Well, I guess the stuff is okay but when you put FilmGuard on it: 1) It doesn't do a whole lot
2) It smells like burning rubber when it goes through the projector.
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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99
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posted 02-16-2000 06:57 PM
If it's a 3M Photoguarded print, call Technicolor and simply demand a non-treated print. That's what I did when Saving Private Ryan was re-released. The un-treated print I got had some black scratches, but were covered up after a week's running with FilmGuard.There is a very distinct odor to Photoguard. I think Randy put it best, "like burning rubber". It will look completely different to a normal print with a rainbow kind of glossy surface. It will also run substantially louder and will shake more on screen. Focusing is usually affected as well. However in it's defense, that coating is to overkill, there is no way in hell you can scratch it! If you do get one of these prints, don't waste your time trying to clean it with FilmGuard or any other liquid cleaner. It will not do a bit of good. Also, stray away from running a regular cleaner on it, as it will cause it to shed like there's no tomorrow. Just thread it, start it, go make a phone call to TES, clean the projector, thread it, start it, go make a nasty phone call to TES, clean the projector, thread it, start it, commence yelling at TES, etc. You know, the usual procedure to get what you need.  I understand Dreamworks is making new prints on this one, so hopefully this won't even be an issue.
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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
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posted 02-17-2000 12:44 AM
Silly, yes. Realistic, no. The odds are that most of the prints were junked before Oscar time. The remaining prints were probably not inspected, but just randomly grabbed off of the top of the pile and were probably in horrible condition.A few years back, I was picking up some prints at the local depot and saw an interesting sight. There was 20 brand new, never opened prints of a very major motion picture. While that may not sound odd, the fact that this was junking day for that title certainly sparked my interest. As I was waiting to have my prints pulled, I chatted with a fellow who was packing up prints to go out. He told me those were over-ordered, as the studio didn't come through with as many playdates as they had expected and the prints had been sitting there unopened since a couple of days before it's first release. I then made a comment along the lines of "well, at least you know which ones to keep for the archives.  " As it turns out, those were to be junked. When I asked why, the answer was "we don't know if those have any lab problems in them, but these that just came back from the dollar house runs didn't get any complaints, so we KNOW these are good prints." AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRGH! (Fortunately, this thought pattern has since been changed.)
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John Walsh
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From: Connecticut, USA, Earth, Milky Way
Registered: Oct 1999
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posted 02-18-2000 10:00 AM
I ran a print of "Everything You Wanted to Know About Sex" in 1983 or so, and it was exactly like what Randy said; There was a varnish-like coating on it, and it even had what looked like "brush-strokes" in it. I thought that might effect the picture, but didn't.I didn't have that special splicing tape (no one told us we were getting that print, and I had never heard of Photoguard before), and initially tried to use regular tape. I was amazed how little anything stuck to the film. You could press the regular tape down as hard as you could, rub it in with your fingernail hard, hard, hard- and it would just fall off.
I later was told that "Everything..." was a popular film around the New York City collage crowd, and with lots of rentals, was chosen to really test the Photoguard.
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