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Topic: Speilberg does Kubrik!!!
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John Wilson
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From: Sydney, Australia.
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 03-17-2000 05:26 AM
>>You think I like being a "Jedi Master Film Handler"? No!<<It's not that I like being a Jedi Master Film Handler...I don't! There's just nothing I can do about it right now. It's such a long way from here. That's your uncle talking... Yeah, my uncle! I need your help Luke... She needs your help...I'm getting too old for this sort of thing...
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Aaron Mehocic
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From: New Castle, PA, USA
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 03-17-2000 10:59 AM
I don't want to start a rebellion against the empire here, but Kubrik was a terrible director! "Full Metal Jacket" was probably his best film, and even that lacked substinence. We (fellow operators where I work) have discussed Kubrik's work a lot since his death, and we have concluded he was a failure at his career. Again, I'm sorry if I offended anyone, but it is difficult for me to compare him with the Great Ones such as Frank Capra, Orson Welles, Elia Kazan, and Francis Ford Coppola. Those men directed great films. Kubrik directed great written films, but used artistic license to ruin them at the final cut.[This message has been edited by Aaron Mehocic (edited 03-17-2000).]
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Mark Ogden
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From: Little Falls, N.J.
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 03-17-2000 07:25 PM
Aaron: go at once to your nearest video store and rent "Paths of Glory", easily the greatest anti-war film ever made, and then come back and say Kubrick was a failure. I defy you to get thru this film without tears of sorrow and rage. He made some bizarre stuff in his life, some of it obscure, and some of it mediocre, but all of it 10x more interesting than anything playing on any of our screens tonight (20x if you're doubling "Erin Brockovitch") Coppola? You mean the guy that directed "Jack" and "One From the Heart"? Puh-leeese! Welles? OK, "Citizen Kane" and maybe "Magnificent Ambersons", and. . . ? Gawd.
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Zach Zagar
Film Handler
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From: Jefferson City, MO
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 03-17-2000 08:36 PM
I vaguely recall, years ago, seeing 2001, and have decent memories, but if Eyes Wide Shut is any minor indication of Kubrick, then... uh, yeah, he's not so cool.And by the way, Lucas is most likely, NOT directing Episode II, or so I've read. Ok, 2 cents dropped...
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Aaron Mehocic
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From: New Castle, PA, USA
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 03-18-2000 12:59 AM
Well I thought this would be a land mine, so let me answer some of the questions.No, I have not seen all of Kubrik's films, but I have seen enough to comment on his style. It seems that one of his supporters here on the forum does agree with me that some his work was "bizare ... obscure ... [and] mediocre". My only response to that is the fact that Kubrik had total artistic control after Sparticus (1960), and made films only for the enjoyment of himself. The audience is secondary, and there is the key to my disliking of him. A director should make films for the enjoyment of the audience. This is why many of films failed at the box office. Yes, the critics liked the films, but critics are liberal types that hold artistic rebels in high esteem anyway. In essence they liked him because he screwed the system, not because his films had any legitimate messages (violent human nature - don't we see enough of that from Turner's bizare, obscure, and mediocre CNN). I respect your positions on the man. Perhaps you do think he was brilliant. I, however, do not. Why? Because he rejects traditional values and is never optimistic in his films. He directs for his own enjoyment, and the enjoyment of a core minority of film goers. I don't think posterity will pay Stanley Kubrik the acolades he received from his contemporaries. If you're interested, I've seen four of his films: "Sparticus", "Strangelove", "Full Metal Jacket", and "Eyes Wide Shut". I could not get out of "Eyes" fast enough! The worst movie of 1999. Again, I'm sorry if I offended anyone.
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