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Topic: Media Cleaners-Price?
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Ethan Harper
E-dawggg!!!
Posts: 325
From: Plano, TX, USA
Registered: May 2000
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posted 05-25-2000 03:02 PM
in response to your post.I have recently purchased my Kelmar Media Cleaners at NCS for about 511.00 a piece. do you need aw3 brackets? what will yoyu be using PTR's for? i would also try looking in used equipment in the film handlers forum. ------------------ --"That's my story and i'm sticking to it!"--
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John Pytlak
Film God
Posts: 9987
From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 05-25-2000 03:22 PM
I just checked the FPC website ( http://www.fpcfilm.com ) and 3-inch diameter 35mm PTRs are $57.15 each for the normal surface, and $58.20 for the "matte" finish. With normal care and cleaning (washing in water after each show, or carefully using adhesive tape to pull off the captured dirt), one pair of PTRs should effectively clean at least 5 million feet of print film (about 3 months cleaning 5 shows per day).PTRs are widely used by film laboratories, film-to-video transfer labs, special venue theatres (e.g., IMAX), and theatres. As noted in other threads, they can become overloaded with debris from severely abraded film, but are very effective with normal dirt levels. Because of their cushioned soft surface and rolling contact with the film, they have very low risk of scratching film (e.g., they are used for cleaning camera original film at labs), and leave no residue on the film. P.S. - I'm the co-inventor of PTR film cleaning. That's why I'm so enthusiastic. ------------------ John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging Eastman Kodak Company Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419 Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA Tel: 716-477-5325 Fax: 716-722-7243 E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com
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Mark Gulbrandsen
Resident Trollmaster
Posts: 16657
From: Music City
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 05-25-2000 06:09 PM
Dustin, OK, I will give you a break! I can sell you a brand new Kelmar media cleaner for 504.35 if you prepay the order. It comes with 1 platter or projector mounting bracket. Extra brackets are 57.75 and cleaning media(white) is 22.23 for a box of 8 sets. If I order 25 boxes or more the price drops quite a bit. Kelmar PTR cleaners would run you 227.15 each and do not include a mounting bracket so you have to add that price to the cleaner. I will offer this same price(cost plus 10%)to anyone here on Film-Tech. Film-Guard(highly reccomended!)is also available discounted. VISA/Mastercard also accepted but adds 3.5% to your cost. Mark mark@getgts.com www.getgts.com 801-485-5012-8am to 6pm M.T.Note:8:50 PM 5/26/2000, I have just discovered that my price was not figured correctly. It should probably be a bit lower that I posted. I will double check this and make any correction to the prices I posted on Tuesday. Those that ordered film cleaners today will have their accounts credited the difference. Thanks to all that have purchased!!
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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!
Posts: 12814
From: Annapolis, MD
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 05-25-2000 09:11 PM
Mark,Is that price for genuine Kelmar film cleaning media or for Neumade? Steve ------------------ "Old projectionists never die, they just changeover!"
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John Pytlak
Film God
Posts: 9987
From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 05-26-2000 06:29 AM
No matter how you do it (PTRs or a media cleaner with FilmGuard), cleaning prints during each showing is a good idea, and not really that expensive for the extra quality it gives. At the FPC price of $57.15 per PTR, and assuming a 3-month useful life, cleaning five shows a day with a pair of rollers costs only about $0.25 (25 cents) per show. Web cleaning media and FilmGuard are likewise a good investment in on-screen quality. Unfortunately, they are not compatible: you can't use PTRs on a print treated with FilmGuard because of the oily residue. BTW, I was never a fan of using media cleaners DRY, since there was always risk of catching an abrasive particle and scratching the print. I once saw an entire print trashed because a dry media cleaner was used to clean a print that had an accumulation of cement dust from some booth construction work. The media looked like a piece of sandpaper from the dirt it picked up, and the print had numerous scratches throughout its length. ------------------ John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging Eastman Kodak Company Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419 Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA Tel: 716-477-5325 Fax: 716-722-7243 E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com
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