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Topic: Nitrate on a platter?
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Bruce McGee
Phenomenal Film Handler
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From: Asheville, NC USA... Nowhere in Particular.
Registered: Aug 1999
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posted 08-28-2000 08:14 PM
Kind of sounds like they were running a bit of nitrate there.A few years ago, a friend and I started looking for a copy of a 1925 feature called "Conquest of Caanan" that was filmed here in downtown Asheville. It was presumed lost years ago, and the studio, Paramount, was not helpful. In fact, my friend was told by someone on the phone that they were not interested in that old stuff. Persistance eventually paid off. My friend found that a print existed in Russia. The print they had was nitrate and had russian title cards. After some negotiations, and some city finances, we obtained a perfect new 10 reel print on safety stock. I am astounded at the sharpness of the print, cosidering it is a dupe. I assembled it onto 4 2000' reels. I could not read the Russian, so I went by the numbers at the bottom of each of the title cards. I must have gotten it right, as it was transferred in Atlanta to tape, and the print was returned to Asheville. The film has been shown on cable TV several times with new english title cards translated from "old" Russian by a friend. The print sat in City Hall for a couple of years before we got it back. It almost was thrown out during a city renovation project! It is now here with my collection. I cant tell what the film stock is, but it sure smells good. I have run it on my Holmes once. It is not a very good movie. It bombed on the first release. The reason I mention this is because they do have a big collection of nitrate in Russia. I cant believe they would run the musical prints without taking major precautions. Question: Could the nitrate sliding on the surface of the platter cause a spark that could ignite the film? We all know about static with polyester bases. Possibly just being such bad movies that they just burst into flames?
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Leo Enticknap
Film God
Posts: 7474
From: Loma Linda, CA
Registered: Jul 2000
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posted 09-04-2000 05:14 PM
There was a follow-up article in Friday's Isvestia, again kindly translated by my neighbour. They think the fire was caused by a Diesel generator malfunctioning and igniting 3 250-litre drums of fuel stored in the same plant room (:eek . The heat from this ignited 1968-vintage upholstery and carpets... not the sort of climate they're used to in Siberia, I would have thought!Anyway, it would seem that the platter full of nitrate was me being paranoid. I wonder if it could possibly happen, though... distributor wants to re-release classic film and buys rights, exchange/depot says "oh yes, we've got a print of that which has been sitting around for ages, hardly used at all", no-one involved in any of this knows anything about nitrate, film is delivered to multiplex and made up by inexperienced trainee...
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David Kilderry
Master Film Handler
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From: Melbourne Australia
Registered: Sep 1999
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posted 09-09-2000 03:59 AM
Running nitrate on a platter is like setting a longer fuse to a bigger bomb!I'm still amazed at what one foot of nitrate will do - burn like a gas jet. Just think what 12,000ft on a platter would do! What were they thinking - or more precisely, were they thinking at all! Never run nitrate (at home or theatre) unless you have spool boxes, fire traps, projector door and fire extinguishers close by. Most nitrate is full of nicks and often in poor condition (its all at least 48 years old) so be careful! I still argue that it is one of the most stable film stocks though. I have nitrate from pre 1920 still in perfect condition. Can anyone prove that acetate or polyester lasts longer - produce the goods! David
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