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Topic: Indie films = bad prints?
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John Pytlak
Film God
Posts: 9987
From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 09-08-2000 06:30 AM
Could be that there was a problem with the handling of the negative by the negative cutter. If only a few prints are being made, the distributor may decide to make all prints from the cut negative, putting it at more risk for damage, rather than paying for a duplicate negative. The labs generally give the same quality care and attention to all productions, regardless of whether it is a major or indie. But lower budget features may not be using Kodak film.------------------ John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging Eastman Kodak Company Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419 Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA Tel: 716-477-5325 Fax: 716-722-7243 E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com
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Leo Enticknap
Film God
Posts: 7474
From: Loma Linda, CA
Registered: Jul 2000
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posted 09-08-2000 03:26 PM
The problem with laser subtitles is that they are burnt into the base side, not the emulsion. So you can focus the picture, or the s/ts, but not both.Whilst I have never come across prints of with as much negative damage as Brad encountered (apart from archival prints derived from elements which were not preserved as well as they might have been), indie, art and rep release prints do, in my experience, present problems which you tend not to encounter with mainstream titles. Firstly, a far smaller number of prints tend to get made of these titles. These prints are transported more during their lifetime, and lower proportion of showings for every time they get made up and packed off. A film like 'Gladiator' might run four times a day for three weeks in a typical venue. By way of comparison, we're showing 'La Veuve de Saint-Pierre' twice a day for one week. Often, we get these sorts of films on three-day bookings or even one-off weekend matinees. So point one, these prints are used in a way that involves more handling, and consequently more intensive wear and tear during their lifetimes, and more opportunity for bad handling. Point two is that a lot of the venues that show art and rep are those which do not have ideal equipment, properly maintained, and whose projection staff do not have the film handling skills needed to take the best care of these prints. I'm talking student film societies, or state-funded arts centres that show films maybe one evening per week. You can't stop supplying prints to these places on the grounds that their print handling is lousy, because they represent a significant source of income for distributors of art/rep/indie titles. In fact, probably most of their income. But on the other hand, they are making other cinemas (and audiences) suffer by the way they treat the films in their care. Said print of 'La Veuve' has a horrible emulsion tramline from start to end, is as dirty as hell, full of cinch marks, has lots of edge damage and the SR-D drops in and out all the way through. Hardly surprising, then, that there have now been several editorials in 'Sight and Sound' (a semi-academic British film magazine aimed mainly at arthouse fans) enthusing about DLP and saying how wonderful the prospect is of nailing down the coffins of all those crappy projectionists. It's a real Catch 22. On the evidence of where films tend to come to us on crossover and in what state they arrive, I believe that there are about 10 venues in the UK which between them are responsible for 90% of the print mangling. They probably wouldn't be if they had the money to send their projectionist on a one-day course, invest in running spools that weren't bent, buy a proper rewind table or whatever. Nevertheless, if you closed these venues down now, the quality of art and rep prints circulating in this country would improve beyond recognition - I'd put money on that. The only thing I can do is to request a new print every time I get a substandard one, knowing full well that in nine cases out of ten the distributor won't have a replacement. But if the message gets through that the venues which care aren't willing to put up with knackered prints without making a fuss, maybe constructive pressure can be applied on the places that are causing the problems.
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