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Topic: CP500 remote/local fader automation-any ideas?
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Neil Di Scala
Film Handler
Posts: 17
From: Santa Cruz, CA, USA
Registered: Sep 2000
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posted 09-10-2000 08:40 PM
I took the advice offered elsewhere on this site (thank you) and installed the auditorium fader on our CP65's. It was a complete success. Anyone thinking about doing this, it is worth it for the sense of power alone. It cost less than $5.00/screen. The CP500 does not (apparently) offer the same option. I am going to use the Dolby A preset for trailers for now. I did order the cat. 734 remote fader, mistakenly thinking that it would allow a data input to the processor. There is cat. 689, with more options, but still not this one. It seems like there could be a small program redirecting the automation cues (maybe a menu?)that would include this option. I know that the trailers are not really loud, and it is my imagination, but we now get to play the feature at a nice volume and with virtually no complaints.
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Neil Di Scala
Film Handler
Posts: 17
From: Santa Cruz, CA, USA
Registered: Sep 2000
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posted 09-11-2000 09:01 AM
You are right, with a couple of caveats. If you have a DTS in the system, it will cue itself during the trailers, and the trailers do not play in digital.Using SR instead of A is an upgrade to what I am doing now, and will certainly work. I didn't consider a second SR format button. If I created a second Digital button, couldn't I do the same thing? I don't have the book in front of me, but what if I created two alternatives, one SR and one D, the "second" digital default to the "second" SR? That way the trailers play in D, default to a preset SR, the feature plays in a different D, with a different SR backup. I will check this out Wednesday. I will have to think about the DTS in this scheme.
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Steven Gorsky
Expert Film Handler
Posts: 146
From: Frederick, MD, USA
Registered: Sep 2000
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posted 09-12-2000 12:54 AM
I would like to set this up on our CP-500's also, but our current cue set-up doesn't work
that way. We have a total of 8 cues:
1 - end of show
2 - half-light
3 - flat Dolby A
4 - scope Dolby A
5 - flat Dolby SR
6 - scope Dolby SR
7 - lights to dim
8 - interlockIn other words our CP-500's are set-up to automatically go to Dolby Digital, but since we have no cue for it I shouldn't disable auto-digital. Otherwise we would have to switch it manually. Our cues may change, as in 2-3 weeks our automation system is getting replaced with a newer computerized one. (The current automation is only 2 months old, we just opened with all new equipment, after closing our 4-plex.) Steven Gorsky ------------------
Projectionist
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Antonio Marcheselli
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1260
From: Florence, Italy
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 09-13-2000 03:57 AM
Hello,I resolved your problem with my CP500 in the following way: My automation can pulse SK1 (Mono), SK2(Dolby A) and SK4 (SR.D). I substitute the original format with the following: SK1 From Mono to SR (adv)
SK2 From Dolby A to Dolby Digital
SK4 SR.D/DTS Then I've assigned a Fader setting to each format: SK1 has 3.0 (since adv are recorded at the same level of "Star Wars"...), SK2 has 4.0 (trailers).
SK4 has different volume for the film (from 6 to 7.5 usually). Then I've reprogrammed my automation to project ADV in mono, Trailers in DOlby A and film in Sr.D. Volume level change when you select the format. Before make this modify I had many compliant since it is impossible to project ADV at 6.5... Hope to has been useful... Antonio
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Neil Di Scala
Film Handler
Posts: 17
From: Santa Cruz, CA, USA
Registered: Sep 2000
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posted 09-13-2000 08:02 PM
Thanks again. I was at a twin that I take care of this morning, and the volumes were at 4.5 & 3.9. This means that no one will ever have to come upstairs to turn the volume down, no matter what. I can't complain, they are not scratching film at an alarming rate. They don't seem to mind having to learn something new, only when it actually takes more effort when things get tough.Booth Motto- 'Sex, Drugs, & Rock-&-Roll, I don't care, scratch the prints, you're fired.'
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Steven Gorsky
Expert Film Handler
Posts: 146
From: Frederick, MD, USA
Registered: Sep 2000
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posted 09-13-2000 11:17 PM
I didn't get the chance to try this tonight, as our booth manager wasn't there so I couldn't discuss it with him first. I am hoping he'll agree to this though as I have basically been doing this manually, i.e. fire exits snipe at 6, 4.2 for screenvisions, trailers, policy, THX, then turn back up to 6 for the feature, with no complaints. When one of our newer projectionists runs films he doesn't do this so it gets turned down when people complain during the trailers, and stays down through the feature.Steven Gorsky ------------------
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I give it a try tomorrow evening. I am not sure why we have a cue for Dolby A. It doesn't make to much sense when just about everything is SR anyway. I can probably do this on our 3 SDDS houses too (they don't automatically go to SDDS anyway - although they don't have CP-500's I can probably do something similar). We do have some DTS houses where I'll have to do the cable modification, but I'll buy some gender adapters and modify them so no one can complain. Well maybe not, now that I think about it. I could leave that alone, and set-up a second external 6 channel button in place of Dolby A.
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