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Topic: argh! mysterious digital problem...
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Gracia L. Babbidge
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 709
From: Bowdoin, Maine
Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 09-11-2000 03:00 AM
...'Any help here would be hot'...I'll be the first one to say that I am a projectionist, not a projector technician. However, I do try to deal with problems myself before freaking out and calling a tech. (After all, why bother them for something minor that I can handle on my own?) I'm fairly sure that I will have to call a tech for this one, I just want to see if there is anything else I could have checked and/or done before making that call. My SRD is not working. The Digital Soundhead is a Cat. No. 700, and the SRD digital film sound processor is a Model DA20. I'm not sure if the problem is with the reader or with the processor. But on the soundrack where a number (or sometimes an 'F') is displayed while a film is running in SRD, instead there is simply a '-'. Short, flat line. I've already checked for blown fuses and loose wiring. All was fine. The bulb in the soundhead is working fine, not burnt out. All appropriate lenses are clean, and everything ought to be properly aligned (being at least a good 5.5 feet off the floor, directly over a beastly Century JJ2STA projector head, keeps things well out of harm's way as far as getting 'bumped' and misaligned!) Mind you, I have no test loops, or hardly anything else in the way of equipment for running tests. And too, my knowledge of electronics is minimal. I appreciate any advice that will get tossed this way. ~Gracia ------------------ In some cultures, what I do is considered normal.
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John Wilson
Film God
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From: Sydney, Australia.
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 09-11-2000 04:20 AM
GraciaIn these days where everything has an SRD track on it perhaps this one does not. Is this the same on all prints and trailers or just one title?
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John Pytlak
Film God
Posts: 9987
From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 09-11-2000 08:03 AM
Gracia --- just look at the print to see if there is a Dolby Digital track. Under a magnifying glass, you should be able to see the Dolby "Double D" logo printed in the center of each good data block between the perfs on the side of the film adjacent to the analog track.The Dolby Digital, SDDS and analog/DTS time code tracks all have separate light sources on the printer, so one can fail even on "quad" format prints. ------------------ John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging Eastman Kodak Company Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419 Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA Tel: 716-477-5325 Fax: 716-722-7243 E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com
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John Pytlak
Film God
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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 09-11-2000 02:23 PM
Gracia -- We did not question your abilities, just your eyesight. We "old fogies" need to use a magnifier (or at least our reading glasses) to see the Dolby "double D" and verify the print has Dolby Digital printed. As John Walsh noted, he has seen prints with only a data-less gray printed that gave the "-" indication you got. Oh, to be young again! ------------------ John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging Eastman Kodak Company Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419 Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA Tel: 716-477-5325 Fax: 716-722-7243 E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com
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Leo Enticknap
Film God
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From: Loma Linda, CA
Registered: Jul 2000
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posted 09-11-2000 04:01 PM
The fact that you sometimes get an 'F' (for 'fail') on the DA-20 display means that the Cat 700 is definitely picking up some data and passing it to the DA-20, but that the DA-20 cannot convert it into analogue waveforms, because that data is in some way corrupted. If there were no SR-D data on the print, then you would just get the '-', never an 'F'. The fact that you are getting an 'F' means that data is being sent at least some of the time, which pretty much rules out the connectors or cable. I suppose there's just a small chance of an intermittent break in the connection, but would doubt it.If you have tried another print which you know to be OK without success, then all I can think of is the following: 1. Exciter bulb on the way out. I know you said it's not blown but the light from halogen lamps gradually deteriorates during their lifetime. Just as you have to keep resetting the gain on an SR analogue (incandescent) exciter over the course of its lifetime to compensate for the reduction in light output, the same problem with digital will show itself as a gradually increasing error rate. Has the error rate gradually been getting worse on that reader over the last few days or weeks? If so try changing the lamp. If it's been in for over a year, then personally I'd change it anyway. 2. Optics (exciter and/or CCD) dirty. I know you said they were clean but there's nothing to lose by trying the following. Take a compressed air spray, pointing the jet laterally across the exciter lens and the CCD (metal tube next to the scanning drum), and give a brief squirt. Do not point the nozzle straight at it as the force of the air pressure could cause damage. At this point, I'd give up and call an engineer, because unless I'm being really stupid and missing something, the only other possibilities are: 3. Optics and/or CCD have become misaligned. Have you had a platter wrap recently, or has the Cat 700 been knocked for any reason? If so this could have happened. You need to call an engineer to fix this - there's nothing you can do about it yourself. 4. Internal fault within the DA20 - ditto. Hope this helps.
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