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Gracia L. Babbidge
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 709
From: Bowdoin, Maine
Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 09-18-2000 05:34 AM
I have not had too many of the new [almost clear] TES reels fall apart on me, though I've dealt with a fwe with misaligned cores. grrrr...I seem to have the worst luck with Warner Bros reels though. Every print I get from WB will have at least one reel that falls apart or at least one with a misaligned core. This past Thursday, Bait had a fwe misaligned cores, and in the process of taking the reel apart (very carefully, so as not to break it), I was attacked by the frilling thing! 
Left me with a cresent shaped scratch about an inch and a half long, across my left palm. Really inconvenient with my being left-handed.  My hand stung all night, and I still have a visible mark.
:::curses WB for sending crappy movies on crappy reels::: ...Now that I think about it, with the print I had to make up of The Whole Nine Yards, I had to realign all of the cores in the reels, left me with some scratches, bruises, and broken nails...
Ack! >_< Sometimes I think that WB has it out for my hands.... ~GLB ------------------
In some cultures, what I do is considered normal.
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John Pytlak
Film God
Posts: 9987
From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 09-18-2000 01:59 PM
In North America, the labs ship most reels as "pancakes" of film on a core. They are usually mounted onto shipping reels at the exchanges. Traditional metal or plastic shipping reels required winding the film onto the reel, a labor-intensive operation. With a "take-apart" reel, the pancake of film is simply put between the take-apart sections. You might ask why labs don't simply wind the film onto reels themselves? Although they occasionally do (directly off the processing machine or in "positive assembly"), the logistics of returning hundreds of thousands of used reels to the labs for reuse are prohibitive, so it is usually done at the exchanges where old prints are discarded, and new ones mounted. ------------------
John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: 716-477-5325 Fax: 716-722-7243
E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com
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John Pytlak
Film God
Posts: 9987
From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 09-18-2000 02:58 PM
Dave said: "I guess the cores being smaller may be easier to ship... Why not just ship prints to the theatres on cores and require every theatre to have several metal split reels for build up and break down? Not that that is necessarially a good idea, some people wouldn't get the film on the core tightly and you would have a 'reel' mess". You've answered your own questions. Labs continually get a free supply of new cores with the raw stock they buy. Some old cores are reused by the labs, but most go into a plastic recycling stream. Shipping large rolls of film on a core can be tricky. Kodak actually uses a large vacuum-sealed "vac bag" package that protects the unexposed film from light, moisture, looseness and damage.
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John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: 716-477-5325 Fax: 716-722-7243
E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com
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Aaron Sisemore
Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day!
Posts: 3061
From: Rockwall TX USA
Registered: Sep 1999
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posted 09-21-2000 01:53 AM
Well upon opening my print of 'Woman On Top' this afternoon I was greeted by the *ALL NEW* 20th Century Fox Shipping Reels!These reels are EXACTLY the same as the Warner Brothers reels I have described above except the color is unlike any plastic shipping reel i have ever seen before: its a sparkly (if you look at them under bright light) silver-gray! At first glance I thought they were metal reels! These reels held together fairly well (one did come apart on me, but went back together easily and didnt come apart again)... Aaron
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