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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99

posted 09-29-2000 05:17 AM

I for one was very impressed with the sound work on such an old film. In particular the EX encoding! I was hearing 3 VERY discrete channels of surround. It actually made the purchase of the SA10 seem worthwhile. Now if only more sound mixers would take advantage of the format and mix it aggresively.

Opinions from others who have screened this in EX?

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John Wilson
Film God

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From: Sydney, Australia.
Registered: Dec 1999

posted 09-29-2000 05:37 AM

...MY...GOD...!!!...

A film...in...EX???...(clutches heart)...so...glad...I...lived...to...see...

...it. (thud).

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Martin Frandsen
Master Film Handler

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From: Denmark, Europe
Registered: Jun 99

posted 09-29-2000 05:53 AM

Well it was about time! finally we get to see if it works!

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John Pytlak
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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000

posted 09-29-2000 06:10 AM

Page 48-50 of the October 2000 issue of Film Journal International has an article by Patrick Artiaga and Graham Edmondson of Dolby about Surround EX. It lists the following US productions as having Surround EX:

Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me
Bats
Gladiator
Minority Report
Mission to Mars
Pitch Black
Star Wars Episode I - The Phantom Menace
The Bone Collector
The Exorcist - The Version You've Never Seen
The Fight Club
The Haunting
The Legend of Bagger Vance
The Perfect Storm
Toy Story 2

Pictures produced outside the US having Surround EX encoding include:
The Art of War
The Messenger: The Story of Joan of Arc
Chicken Run
The World Is Not Enough
Avalon

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Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
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Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
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Dustin Mitchell
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From: Mondovi, WI, USA
Registered: Mar 2000

posted 09-29-2000 08:11 AM

I don't care what sound format its in, it made 8.2 million dollars from 664 locations! I can't wait until we get it on Friday the 13th.

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John Pytlak
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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
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posted 09-29-2000 08:38 AM

As noted in another thread, re-releasing "blockbusters" from the past with new prints could be a "goldmine" for both distributors and theatres. The key is PROMOTING the advantage of seeing them again on a BIG screen with picture and sound quality not attainable at home. The best home theatre systems pale in comparison to "film done right" in a theatre.

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Ari Nordström
Master Film Handler

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From: Göteborg, Sweden
Registered: Jan 2000

posted 09-29-2000 04:07 PM

John wrote:

>>"The key is PROMOTING the advantage of seeing them again on a BIG screen with picture and sound quality not attainable at home."<<

Yeah! We want 70mm, we want 70mm, we want 70mm...!

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Tom Kroening
Expert Film Handler

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From: Janesville, WI USA
Registered: Oct 1999

posted 09-29-2000 05:53 PM

That re-release of rear window was a great idea, but it didn't get promoted well enough. You could actually see all the details in the windows vs on tv.

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Martin Frandsen
Master Film Handler

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From: Denmark, Europe
Registered: Jun 99

posted 09-30-2000 06:11 AM

Nothing does it better than 70mm! Keep asking for 70mm prints when you book film. It will put presure on the studio's to make prints. Another thing of cause your chain will have to install 70mm in the booth, but that's another problem i guess.

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Per Hauberg
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Malling, Denmark
Registered: Jul 2000

posted 09-30-2000 05:44 PM

212, iceman. -What a way to go !

/p.

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Dave Cutler
Master Film Handler

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From: Centennial, CO
Registered: Jun 2000

posted 10-04-2000 07:11 PM

I just thought I would share my dissapointing experience when I went to see "The Exorcist."

I was all excited to see it in digital, and went to a Mann 12 just south of Boulder CO off US 36. It was in a house equpited with SRD and ran in analog. I was dissapointed, but oh well. I let the manager know that there was a problem and hopefully it was fixed for any future showings.

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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99

posted 10-05-2000 03:01 AM

That really sucks! You should've traveled just a bit farther south.

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Rick Long Jr
Expert Film Handler

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From: Toronto, Canada
Registered: Jul 2000

posted 10-11-2000 10:25 PM

This maybe a stupid question, but how do you know if a film is in fact EX encoded? Looking at the list of titles that John posted, and knowing that almost all of the SA-10's I've installed are not being used (or being used at the wrond times) It would be great to be able to tell the theatre's I deal with what to look for. Sorry if I am a little out of the loop on this, but I haven't seen any indication on any films as of yet.
Thanks!
RLJ

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Steven Gorsky
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 146
From: Frederick, MD, USA
Registered: Sep 2000

posted 10-12-2000 12:56 AM

One way someone mentioned on these boards was the DTS disc will have a 5 digit serial number, but the best guarantee is to look for the Dolby Digital EX logo near the end of the credits.

Steven Gorsky

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John Wilson
Film God

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From: Sydney, Australia.
Registered: Dec 1999

posted 10-13-2000 01:45 AM

It would be pretty sad if we had to look at the credits to find out though. It should be marked on the leaders and tails without exception (along with the intended ratio).

The credits are not failsafe. I just finished a print of 'Snowday' which proudly proclaimed to be in dts in the credits...

...it wasn't.

All info needed for correct presentation of the title should be included on the leaders. The operator should not have to just take a guess...I'm sure the director wouldn't want it any other way.

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