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Inge Strand
Film Handler
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From: Nittedal, Norway
Registered: Sep 2000
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posted 10-25-2000 03:32 AM
Nope its not a vision print. Its Exr 386. Kodaks best print stock ever if ya ask me.
Men in black was also printed on 386, both directed by Barry Sonnenfeld. .Inge
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John Pytlak
Film God
Posts: 9987
From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 10-31-2000 10:16 AM
2383 is Kodak VISION Color Print film:
http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/products/lab/2383.shtml 2393 is Kodak VISION Premier Color Print film:
http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/products/lab/2393.shtml Kodak VISION Premier Color Print Film contains more silver and is formulated to achieve richer blacks and more saturated colors. It may be used for all (e.g. US prints of "Gladiator") or part of a release. Color reproduction and tone scale are also affected by the cinematography. For example, slightly overexposing the negative will give "richer" blacks and more saturated colors, whereas underexposure tends to give "smoky" blacks,desaturated colors, and more graininess.
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John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: 716-477-5325 Fax: 716-722-7243
E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com
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John Pytlak
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Posts: 9987
From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 11-01-2000 06:55 AM
Inge:Your print is likely on SO-886, which was a "special order" product. It did not have the color and tone scale improvements that are in the current Kodak VISION Color Print films (2383 or 2393). Kodak VISION Color Print films also have improved resistance to static cling and projector abrasion, compared to previous polyester print films. "386" was likely 2386, which was the last print film to use the old "rem-jet" technology on the back side of polyester base. The triacetate version was 5386. For a comprehensive Chronology of Eastman Kodak Company Motion Picture Films since 1889, see the Kodak Motion Picture website:
http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/about/chrono1.shtml ------------------
John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: 716-477-5325 Fax: 716-722-7243
E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com
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John Pytlak
Film God
Posts: 9987
From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 11-02-2000 05:49 AM
"Special Order" product designation is most often used for products that are not catalog listed, and have slight modifications in the way they are manufactured to suit the needs of specific customers. For example, a customer may need an ESTAR base version of a film normally manufactured on triacetate base.A film developed for special applications may also be given "special order" status, for example, Kodak SFX 200T film, which was developed to optimize "blue screen" and "green screen" traveling matte cinematography:
http://www.kodak.com/country/US/en/motion/support/h2/sfx200t.shtml ------------------
John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: 716-477-5325 Fax: 716-722-7243
E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com
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John Pytlak
Film God
Posts: 9987
From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 11-28-2000 11:21 AM
Both KODAK VISION (2383) and VISION Premier (2393) Color Print films have been successfully used with the "bleach-bypass" processes. These non-standard proprietary processes either reduce the bleaching or redevelop some of the silver in the image area, adding a silver image to the dye image. This usually increases the contrast, makes the blacks "blacker", reduces the color saturation and gives a "grittier" image.One potential drawback of leaving silver in the image area is that the silver absorbs much more heat energy than dyes. So prints will be more prone to heat damage, especially with poor lamp alignment ("hot spotting"), poor heat filtration or excessive lamp power. Here is some background information on "silver retention" processes:
http://www.kodak.com/country/US/en/motion/support/processing/skip.shtml
http://www.kodak.com/country/US/en/motion/newsletters/inCamera/july2000/feat.shtml ------------------
John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: 716-477-5325 Fax: 716-722-7243
E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com
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