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Ian Price
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Denver, CO
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 11-02-2000 11:15 PM      Profile for Ian Price   Email Ian Price   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
So there I am enjoying a nice Chinese dinner at a local restaurant. My cell phone rings and it is my partner telling me that projector #5 is making loud noises like a tractor.

I come in and feel the action of the projector and the projector jams every fourth movement of the intermittent. It turns backwards smoothly.

Well, I guess there wasn't enough oil in the machine. He tells me that there wasn't any splashing on the glass in the back. (If you guessed simplex-XL, you are correct.)

Well, I have downloaded the important parts of the manual from the Manuals section of Film-Tech. I have ordered a new intermittent assembly from my cinema supplier for Saturday delivery. Hopefully I can get it installed and running properly for our shows on Saturday.

Wish me luck and if anybody has any tips or tricks let me know.


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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99


 - posted 11-03-2000 05:21 AM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Yes, don't forget to refill the projector with oil after the new intermittent is installed and most importantly...put the back cover back on! (Yes, at least one tech that I know of forgot to do this.)


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John Pytlak
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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
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 - posted 11-03-2000 05:50 AM      Profile for John Pytlak   Author's Homepage   Email John Pytlak   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
If the intermittent has not completely "frozen", perhaps several changes of oil (to get rid of any metal debris generated while running nearly dry) would allow you to use it today (Friday), until you have the replacement in hand. If the movement is frozen, or the cam or starwheel was severely damaged, you're stuck until the replacement arrives.

You've relearned an expensive lesson about the importance of checking the oil level on a regular basis, ideally, daily.

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John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419
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Randy Stankey
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 - posted 11-03-2000 06:27 AM      Profile for Randy Stankey   Email Randy Stankey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I've never changed an intermittent but I've changed the shutter shaft and spline.

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Scott Norwood
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From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas)
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 - posted 11-03-2000 08:31 AM      Profile for Scott Norwood   Author's Homepage   Email Scott Norwood   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Sorry to hear that, Ian... I've seen the prices for intermittent rebuilds (which are high, even for common machines like Century and Simplex) and would hate to think about what a new one would cost...

This is probably obvious, but don't forget to time the shutter after you replace the intermittent!

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Gordon McLeod
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 - posted 11-03-2000 09:27 AM      Profile for Gordon McLeod   Email Gordon McLeod   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Also check the oil pump on the chance that it has failed

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Steve Guttag
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From: Annapolis, MD
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 - posted 11-03-2000 09:53 AM      Profile for Steve Guttag   Email Steve Guttag   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Ian,

If there are any teeth missing or damaged on the intermittent drive gear (fibre), look in the sump to see if there are any pieces down there. Eventurally one will get sucked up through the strainer and get pumped around.

Your intermittent can most probably be rebuilt to good or better than new condition. E-mail me if you are interested.

Steve

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Ian Price
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 - posted 11-03-2000 12:14 PM      Profile for Ian Price   Email Ian Price   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
My cinema supplier tells me that a rebuilt one is on its way for Saturday deliver. I get to send the old one back to him to be rebuilt.

The intermittent is not compleatly frozen, John. But it hangs on every fourth rotation. So one star cam is messed up. We have a couple of slow films so we are doubling them up in one auditorium. Ah, the pleasures of a multiplex. We only have one film title that is raking in the dough (Best in Show) so that isn't affected. I might try your suggestion if I were deperate, but I don't want to trash the fiber gear just to rake in an extra $200.00 in Box Office. I suspect that the public will grouse about it but come to the later show.

Nothing concetrates the mind like the spector of death or a busted intermittent.


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Ian Price
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 - posted 11-04-2000 03:08 PM      Profile for Ian Price   Email Ian Price   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
So!

I came into work this morning to wait for the UPS driver to bring me a new intermittent. My first show is at 1:00 PM.

At 12:15 PM he arrives. I run upstairs with the new intermittent. I have already removed the old one. I try to put the new one in. It is a tight fit. I try tapping it with a hammer. Doesn't work. I wiggle it around and finally it seats. I tighten the screws, put oil in the beast and start up the motor.

Ah! It runs like a sewing machine! I thread up the film and try to motor it along. No luck. What! The intermittent isn't driving the sprocket. I un-thread the machine. I open the back up and find two screw heads. I think where do these go? I grab the flywheel to see if it turns and it comes off in my hand.

The screws that hold the flywheel on the shaft have sheared off and the shafts are in the threads.

So I try to put the old intermittent back in because we are 5 minutes past show time and there is a paying audience in there. But it doesn't work. It is loud and shaky and since I didn't get a chance to adjust the shutter there is a mean travel ghost. I refund the show and there I am.

I am going to try to use my drill to back out the screw shafts.

Wish me luck.

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Gordon McLeod
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 - posted 11-04-2000 03:36 PM      Profile for Gordon McLeod   Email Gordon McLeod   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Me thinks the tapping it in has created a rather serious problem
An intermitent is a precision device even more so than the projector head as a whole
It shoul not require "tapping in"


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Ian Price
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 - posted 11-04-2000 03:57 PM      Profile for Ian Price   Email Ian Price   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
So, the business partner's boyfriend shows up and says, “Hey lets just back these screws out using a Q-Tip.” So he does just that.

I use the old screws from the old intermittent and put the new one back in. I timed the shutter and it looks like we are good to go.

We should re-title this thread...

How a Q-Tip saved the Intermittent from a Meatball with a Hammer!

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Randy Stankey
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 - posted 11-04-2000 04:12 PM      Profile for Randy Stankey   Email Randy Stankey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Ahhh! Movie projecors and hammers!!
They go together about as well as oil and water.
Buy me a couple beers someday and I'll tell you some stories!

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Gordon McLeod
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 - posted 11-04-2000 05:43 PM      Profile for Gordon McLeod   Email Gordon McLeod   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I always worry when see a fellow engineers tool kit has a hammer on the top

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Jon Bartow
Master Film Handler

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 - posted 11-05-2000 12:48 PM      Profile for Jon Bartow   Email Jon Bartow   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I don't even have a hammer in my toolkit

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Gordon McLeod
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 - posted 11-05-2000 03:22 PM      Profile for Gordon McLeod   Email Gordon McLeod   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Good the only ones I carry are a very small ball and peen hammer and a small one with plastic/rubber ends
Both are burried in the bottom somewhere

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