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Paul Konen
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 981
From: Frisco, TX. (North of Dallas)
Registered: Jun 99

posted 12-08-2000 08:22 AM

Did anyone else have a TON of static on their print.

Good thing I using Film-Guard and treating the other one.

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John Pytlak
Film God

Posts: 9987
From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000

posted 12-08-2000 09:19 AM

If any prints are unusually prone to "Static Cling", please let me know the details (feature, print number, lab, which reels, magneta edgeprint film code). Even if VISION Color Print is used, static sometimes can occur depending on the drying conditions, and the level of Kodak-recommended anti-static process additive being used by the lab. Processing conditions and amount of the anti-static additive are things that Kodak can help the labs with.

Note: sometimes really "fresh" prints stick, due to residual moisture from the processing. Usually, this improves after a few runs.

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John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: 716-477-5325 Fax: 716-722-7243
E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com

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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99

posted 12-08-2000 03:51 PM

Mine seemed about normal for an initial run before I FG it.

I'm very disappointed that this film was flat!!! Booooo! Hissss! I was actually worried about getting a print with "green snow", but the colors on this movie were absolutely perfect on the print I saw. The only defect I found in the printing was an incredibly wide brown scratch intermittently for the first 5 minutes of reel 6...right down the center of the image! Geez. I wonder how fast TES can replace it?

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Lance C. McFetridge
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 135
From: Penn Yan, New York
Registered: Jul 99

posted 12-08-2000 04:34 PM

I didn't have scratches, I had the most obvious series of dots on one frame throughout the movie. they were printed in a dark brown that showed up in several snow scenes.
lance

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John Walsh
Film God

Posts: 2490
From: Connecticut, USA, Earth, Milky Way
Registered: Oct 1999

posted 12-08-2000 10:45 PM

I was also a bit disappointed that "Vertical Limit" was not in 'scope. I thought it had a soft-focus look, which I didn't care for. Did anyone else feel it had a too-soft-focus look?

Our print seemed fine, otherwise.

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Kevin Crawford
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 207
From: Sacramento, CA, USA
Registered: May 2000

posted 12-09-2000 01:05 AM

I would agree with the soft focus look. You would think that it would be easy to get a great focus given the contrasts. And of course, FLAT? What the hell?

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John Walsh
Film God

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From: Connecticut, USA, Earth, Milky Way
Registered: Oct 1999

posted 12-09-2000 08:57 AM

Could I ask everybody here:

Do you think many films out now have a too-soft-focus look? In addition to Vertical Limit, I thought that The Grinch, Charlie's Angels (scope), and 6th Day (scope) and Unbreakable (scope) all looked soft.

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Ethan Harper
E-dawggg!!!

Posts: 325
From: Plano, TX, USA
Registered: May 2000

posted 12-09-2000 12:54 PM

My print of Vertical limit was just plain awful. The first reel, the color timing was off. Second reel had a dolby digital dropout for over a minute plus some green and purple snow. Third reel had green scratches on the left side of the screen. Fifth reel had another dolby digital dropout for over a minute. Plus the SR track on the print sounds really odd. Almost like soundtrack was out of aligment. All you can hear is this wierd loud repititive noise. We thought that our A-chain went really wacky so we threw in a ring of trailers afterwards and played them all in SR, and it sounded just fine. Got the replacement reels and it turns out that the third replacement reel was all crunched up in the middle and it had these wierd yellow chemical looking lines on the picture and on the dolby digital tracks. Has anybody else seen any problems like these or what they might be?

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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99

posted 12-09-2000 03:00 PM

John,

All the "Grinch" prints I've seen are a perfect example of bad lab work. All have pale colors, tons of negative dirt, horrible registration and yes, the focus is soft with a "dirty lens" kind of haze to it.

I've found the Charlie's Angels, "6th Day" and "Unbreakable" prints are all razor sharp.

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