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Topic: Wireless Mic's Setup
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Paul Konen
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 981
From: Frisco, TX. (North of Dallas)
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 12-12-2000 02:36 PM
What basic equipment is neeeded and where do you hook it up.I think that you need, of course, a wireless mic setup and a pre-amp. This then get's wired into the input on the amps that run the surrounds. Anything else or better ideas. Paul
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Tom Sauter
Expert Film Handler
Posts: 163
From: Buffalo, NY, USA
Registered: Sep 2000
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posted 12-12-2000 03:36 PM
A separate system (mixer, eq, amp and loudspeaker) is ideal, but I have had good results using a wireless receiver through a line amplifier, and then went directly into the center channel of the non-sync (on a CP50). If the house were steeply raked, I'd use the surrounds instead to avoid putting the mic directly in front of the center screen speaker.Two recommendations on mics: first, avoid the lavalier (clip-on) type, as they often have highly sensitive condenser microphones in them which are just asking for feedback. Go for a handheld unit with a nice windscreen. Second, go UHF and/or diversity if you can afford it. Lower likelihood of interference, phenomenal range. You're looking at about $500 list for a basic FM mic (The SHURE "Vocal Artist" is reliable and sounds quite nice). You shouldn't have any trouble getting the signal from one of these 200' to your booth. In the FM diversity world you're looking at $800, and in the UHF diversity market (SONY is my favourite- many touring broadway shows use these) be prepared to cough up a cool grand.
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Barry Floyd
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1079
From: Lebanon, Tennessee, USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 12-12-2000 03:37 PM
This is actually something I know about. I've worked as a mobile DJ in Nashville, Tennessee for the last 16 years, and wireless mics are what I use to make my living.As far as a mixer goes.... I'd go with either a Numark or Mackie rack mount DJ mixer. You guys are going "WHAT!!??". But yes, I've seen many drive-in theatres with DJ mixers in the sound rack. The flexibility of a DJ mixer is great. My Numark mixerS have 2 mic channels with XLR & 1/4" inputs, 3 line channels with "preamp" inputs for 6 sources, a "booth monitor send", "stereo master outs", and "stereo record sends". You could run your non-sync music CD player through the mixer, as well as the mic feeds.\ Which wireless mics to use?? I personally use only Shure UHF True Diversity wireless systems. They're built rock solid, have a great warranty, and the reception is flawless. I've got a SM58 wireless handheld, and a body-pack lavalier set in each of my DJ systems. You can pick up a good Shure wireless system for around $500-$600.00 each.
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Scott Norwood
Film God
Posts: 8146
From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas)
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 12-12-2000 05:16 PM
BTW, if you decide to go with a separate system, Altec made some "mixer/amplifiers" in the '70s that combined mic preamps, a simple mixer, and the amplifier all into one unit. These are nice if you're short on rack space, since they take up the same number of rack units as a Dolby processor. The other nice thing is that some of them (at least the 1606A model that I have) have 70v transformers built into them, so you can get a 70v transformer for the loudspeaker and then run cheap wire to the stage, rather than the expensive speaker wire that you would normally use. The sound quality on these things isn't so hot, but it's perfectly acceptible for voice applications.The closest thing I could find quickly was this auction on Ebay--only $27.77 with under 2 hours to go: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=519646993 Actually, this is just a mixer/preamp, but it would do what you want if you intend to connect it to the non-sync input on your Dolby unit.
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Randy Stankey
Film God
Posts: 6539
From: Erie, Pennsylvania
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 12-12-2000 05:23 PM
I've done this a couple of different times in a few different places...On a Ultra*Stereo processor there's an "AUX" input on the back of the unit. It takes a regular line level input, such as that from a CD player and puts it to the right and left channels. All you have to do is press the proper button on the format module. We have had a company come in and do satellite feeds in the auditorium. They brought their own projector and receiver. They fed the signal into a regular old mixing console. There was a handle for the sound and they had a mike as well. Program your individual inputs on "sub" masters and use the "grand" master to vary the overall level. That way you can make sure the mike and the audio feeds are balanced, loudness-wise. Just make sure you have the output of the mixer turned DOWN before you try it. You can always slowly turn it up. It's a lot harder to turn it down after you've blown out your processor! The other place I've done this is in a regular "stage" theatre. They use a DSP to send the outputs to the speakers, though. All you have to do there is hook all your mikes up as normal and then flip a switch on the back of the computer. The DSP does all the work. Just make sure you do a walk test before you are ready for your "Go-Show". You can have a lot of feedback because the speakers are behind the person speaking on stage. You'll have to play with the levels to get that "happy medium" where the voice will be loud enough but it won't cause feedback. Try to set up a podium and keep the mike on the podium. That'll force the person speaking to stay in an area that you know will be safe. They won't walk in front of a speaker and "screech-out" the room that way. It's nigh on impossible to tell your average person that they can walk in one place and not in another... especially while they are trying to give a lecture or performance. Most people can't think on two levels at once like that! If you just use a little common sense you souldn't have too much trouble.
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