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Topic: Eastman Kodak 16mm telecine projector
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John Pytlak
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Posts: 9987
From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 12-20-2000 10:43 AM
Scott: You're testing my memory (senility is near).  I recall that the Model 25 / Model 30 "clone" intended for telecine use was the EASTMAN 16mm Television Projector Model 285. The EASTMAN 16mm Television Projector Model CT-500, a similar slot-loading model, was introduced in the early 1970's. The EASTMAN 16mm Television Projector Model TV-12M6 was a Pageant "clone" equipped (syncronous motor, 5-blade shutter?) for telecine use. All nice projectors, if you could get them before television stations scrapped them. Today most film-to-video transfers are made on continuous-transport flying spot or CCD telecines like the Cintel or Spirit:
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John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: 716-477-5325 Cell: 716-781-4036 Fax: 716-722-7243
E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com
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Steve Matz
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 672
From: Billings, Montana, USA
Registered: Sep 2003
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posted 11-13-2013 01:51 AM
Wow, this is really an old thread but since I have owned an EASTMAN 30 since 1968 and am pretty well versed on the older Cine & Telecine Projectors I'll give my 2 cents worth. The model 25A EASTMAN debuted in 1950. It as mentioned was a professional projector mainly for large auditoriums, Universities, and even theaters that projected 16mm film. it used an 8 point star and cam intermittent movement. The Tungsten version used a 1000watt lamp but Strong Electric made a carbon arc lamphouse for Kodak especially taylored for the 25. Kodak also supplied a Lamphouse pedastal as well as the Rectifier which all had KODAK badgeing on them. The feed and takeup arms were limited to 2000 ft reels, so if you were showing features than you were going to have an intermission unless you could afford 2 of them for a change over. These projectors weren't cheap, even costing more than existing 35mm equipment at the time. Projection lense was an ektanar 2" f1.5...... and had a 2 blade shutter...The Model 25 was revised over the years to a 25B & C model before their run was over.
The TV version was the MODEL 250; essentially pretty identical to the 25 but used a 5 blade shutter, smaller lense for use in a vidicon camera and a 500 watt lamp. It too incorporated the 2000 ft feed and takeup reel arms. The next Telecine model was the 275 which was pretty much a 250 model but with modified feed arm that could handle 5000 ft reels and a take up reel system that mounted almost flush with the lower cabinet and was operated by a 1/4 hp motor on the inside cabinet. I f you have ever seen the movie "DINER" kevin bacon,mickey roarke, look carefully in one scene at a TV station control booth and you can get a glimpse of an immaculate 275 in the background. They were also painted the Krinkle finish brown that you saw on Kodak's AV projectors like the AV085 and early AV126 models.
The model 285 was pretty much the same, projector wise than the previous 250 & 275 but kodak went to a gilmer style cogged belt for the intermittent instead of the syncronous star wheels on the previous models. Kodak had also modified the Geneva type intermittent movement to achieve a faster pull down ratio for more illumination. This was also incorporated into the Model 30/40 Cine model. The cabintry and controls for the 285 were completely different than the 250 and 275. Ironic that one of these was on EBAY a number of years ago and never recieved even one bid. That intermittent alone cost over 1200 bucks from Kodak back in the 80's parts catalog and that was on an exchange basis. I don't know why I never bid on it, Brain Fade I guess... Anyway thats a small descripition of what I believe IMHO were the finest professional 16mm projectors produced at the time... My Model 30 still runs like new still has the original intermittent and projects a rock steady picture even today....s.m.
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, how do those 16mm telecine projectors work? Our machines have two blade shutters so I assume it it spins at 1800 RPM. Now, you turn over the motor, an the intermittant will turn over once, pause, then flick over again, and then quickly after. how does it do this? What special gearing is used? I know the intermit has 5 or 6 "wings"
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