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Topic: What do you know about Victoria?
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Dennis Tichy
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Posts: 32
From: Murrysville, PA, USA
Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 01-06-2001 07:23 PM
A theatre owner recently allowed me a few minutes in a booth he no longer has in operation. The two projectors he has are Victorias---a company I know nothing about. The Victorias were gray and fitted with 6000' open magazines. They appeared to have been manufactured with no doors over the soundhead or projector. There was a turret for the lenses but no lenses. And it would appear that the Victorias do not come apart between the soundhead and projector. Now, here are my questions for those of you who have experience with Victorias: Are they good machines?---Are they still manufactured?---Can you still get parts---Based on the sketchy information I gave you, do you have any idea what the machines might be worth. No sound equipment is included and I'm not sure I can use the Christie lamps. Thanks for listening and thanks for your information.
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John Walsh
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Posts: 2490
From: Connecticut, USA, Earth, Milky Way
Registered: Oct 1999
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posted 01-06-2001 10:40 PM
Personally, I like the Cinemecannica V-series. It is a more modern design, and that is why there is no seperate projector head/ sound reproducer (intergrated design.) I had read somewhere it was called the Victoria series by the manufacturer, because it supposedly marked Cinemecannica's "return" to full manufacturing capablity after World War Two.While I find them easy to clean and thread, and the ones I used did not break often, I must admit that they can be difficult to work on when something does break. Also, the parts are VERY expensive and can take a long time to get. I don't know which models you have, but as a reference, I saw a pair of used, in good shape, V8's (their 70mm, top-of-the-line model) go for $4000 each.
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Alan Lyman
Film Handler
Posts: 13
From: Copenhagen, Denmark
Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 01-08-2001 02:26 AM
I work with V5īs every day,both new ones and old ones.,and I STILL like them.Off course the V8īs are better,but also more expensive.The v5īs are easy to repair,you can just send a new piece to the theater,and they can replace it themselves.A lot of other projectors,a technician has to go there to repair it.
For the V5,there is a new complete new gate assembly,with much more picturesteadiness.Itīs a hole new design.The only thing is,it needs to work with their new
apertureplate changer.
The shutterbox,needs to be refilled every year,with grease.But also a soft start of the projector helps alot.The shutterboxes that we have broken,has always been because off too fast startup.
Cinemeccanicaprices in USA is more expensive
than american projectors,because there not so many of them over there.
If you put the original RED LED kit on a Cinemeccanica,you wont have anymore A-chain problems.
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John Walsh
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Posts: 2490
From: Connecticut, USA, Earth, Milky Way
Registered: Oct 1999
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posted 01-13-2001 08:48 AM
Many V8's do have a slightly higher jitter than other manufacturers when running 35mm. 70mm seems to be OK (similar to other makes.) I used to suspect that the reason is the flat gate and the intermittent shaft is not supported on the outside, like other makes (JJ's AA-II's , etc.) But, every projector has it's goods and bads.Just about every part I have ordered fit with out any machining. But working on the projectors can be tough if you're not used to them. They are made in Italy, and their techniques throw off some American service techs, who (unfairly, I think) bad-mouth the thing. For example, they use taper pins to hold gears on shafts, whereas America projectors usually have set screws. ("I don't have a pin punch to get that shutter gear off in V8.. stupid machine sucks!" Or, sometimes special tools are needed. ("I don't have that tapered tool to put the feed sprocket shaft back in a V9.. stupid machine blows!") I also think the projector is made with generally tighter tolerances. So if a gear won't fit on a shaft, check that the shaft isn't rusty or mushroomed at the end before whaling on it with a hammer. Scrutinize any projector, and you will find flaws. Cinemeccanica's are no worst than other. Admittedly, the A-chain aligning the first stereo solar cells made for the V5,8,9's was/is pure hell.
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