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Topic: Projection Port Glass Cleaning.
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Brad Miller
Administrator
Posts: 17775
From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99
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posted 01-21-2001 01:11 PM
Get yourself lens cleaner, McDonald's napkins and a small 2x4 inch sanding block from a hardware store. Using 3-4 napkins at a time, wrap them on the sanding side of the block and douse the napkins fairly generously with lens cleaner. Wipe the inside of the glass with medium pressure (nothing strenuous) in a vertical motion. Then IMMEDIATELY take a few more napkins and lay them on the sanding block and press HARD on the glass to wipe it dry, again using vertical strokes. Repeat this procedure for the auditorium side, but wipe this one in a horizintal fashion. Then turn on the projector and xenon with no film in the projector and take a look at your glass. If you see any vertical streaks, they are on the inside of the glass and you can generally touch them up with a dry napkin. If the streaks are horizontal, they are on the outside of the glass and again you can generally fix it with a dry napkin.There's just something about those McDonald's napkins that works wonders on optical glass. However you must have the sanding block to do a good job. Don't try and use other kinds of napkins, as McDonald's has the only good ones for this job. The lens cleaner will get off that baked on cheap glass cleaner residue. When you are done, you will not be able to tell there is glass in the window frame. Oh yes, since this topic is in regards to film projection, I am moving it to the Film Handler's Forum.
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Randy Stankey
Film God
Posts: 6539
From: Erie, Pennsylvania
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 01-21-2001 11:18 PM
Port glass cleaning has been a thorn in my side from day one! I've tried everything I could think of... Denatured Alcohol. -- Dissolves the dirt but it dries too fast before you can completely remove the dirt and leaves residue. Lens cleaner. -- Didn't dissolve the dirt well enough. (But I will try again, using Brad's "secret weapon") Isopropyl Alcohol. -- The common garden variety (70% or 90%) does okay but you have to work fast or it'll dry up too. Then the alcohol dries faster than the water and that leaves streaks if you don't dry it up before the alcohol is gone. Pure, "anhydrous" isopropyl alcohol. -- See denatured alcohol, above. Various "industrial" cleaner/degreasers, like "carbon-tet", tricloroethane, acetone... you name it. -- I tried a small patch in one corner, first. I just took one look and quit. It makes it worse. Just don't go there! I don't even know why I tried, except out of desperation. (How did I get my hands on that kind of stuff? Don't ask questions that'll get somebody into trouble, okay.) The only thing that I have found that does a half-decent job is Windex®. Not Glass Plus. Not "lemon-scented... Not "no-drip"... Not "potpourri fresh"... Just plain, old-fashioned, ordinary Windex-with-a-"W".... Windex!
I found that you must use the MINIMUM amount to wet the window. Maybe even just one squirt if that's all you need. Any more and you just make a big mess. Spread the liquid evenly over the window with the first paper towel. Flip it over and wipe it clean, then get another DRY paper towel and WIPE LIKE HELL until it's completely dry! This is the only thing that I have tried that even does a "passable" job, but you have to work up a sweat to do it right. Do that every day for a week in a 17-screener and you can loose some weight! It's a breath of fresh air to hear of this solution! You can bet that tomorrow, on my way to my next theatre, I'm going to Mickey-D's and then to Sears! I haven't darkened the doorstep of a Mickey-D's in such a long time I can't even remember. The food down South is so good I'd probably hurl from the crap. I guess everybody has to "Take one for the team" every once in a while!
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Jerry Chase
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1068
From: Margate, FL, USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 01-22-2001 12:52 PM
The note on Windex reminded me <doh!> I did some tests on various glass cleaners a few years back, because we were entering into a yearly contract with a janitorial supplier.I smeared glass with popcorn oil, dust, dirt, etc. then cleaned the glass with various cleaners and did a side by side comparison of the results. IIRC I tried about a dozen types of glass cleaners, ammonia, iso alcohol, wiping with newspaper, wiping with paper towels, etc. The best product _by far_ was the aerosol can of "Misty" glass cleaner by Amrep, out of Atlanta. The reputation of the product predated my test by a number of years. I remember Cowboy of P&W complaining that Misty shouldn't be sprayed inside projectors, long before I knew what or who "Misty" was. I'm sure Misty would rip the coating off lenses, so I see Cowboy's point. BTW, if you want to have some fun with customers, do a glass cleaner test like I did, by smearing crud on the front doors of the lobby in the middle of the day. You'll get some interesting double takes and comments.
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