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Sean Weitzel
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 619
From: Vacaville, CA (1790 miles west of Rockwall)
Registered: Dec 1999

posted 03-23-2001 10:06 AM

What procedure is best for applying FG to a print while winding between rewinds? What kind of cloth and how much is appropriate?

-sean

Bruce McGee
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1776
From: Asheville, NC USA... Nowhere in Particular.
Registered: Aug 1999

posted 03-23-2001 10:20 AM

As you can see by the picture to the left, I LOVE FilmGuard!

Actually, I sent Brad Miller two images. This is the one he used...Thanks Brad!!

I use my FG the way you describe. I cut-up old tee shirts into 6" wide strips and lay 10-or so layers under the film and fold the strip over. I soak the strips where the film will pass. If the print is really nasty, I give the sides of the roll a single squirt trying to hit the film surface evenly.

I have a motorized rewind. I wind slowly allowing the FG to contact the film. I look at the pad occasionally during the wind to be sure that there is not a load of gunk on the pads. If there is, I just remove the top piece of cloth and continue.

Just be amazed at how much comes off the film, then, after awhile, clean it again. You will be amazed.

I went through the first quart of FG fairly fast. I've had 3 quarts now, and have treated everything both 16mm and 35mm in the collection. I Still have half a bottle.

Brad Miller
Administrator

Posts: 17775
From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99

posted 03-23-2001 02:21 PM

The ideal method is to get an "AW3 platter mount bracket" for the Kelmar cleaner and mount the bracket to the edge of your rewind table. String it through the cleaner (similar to running the film through a frame counter) and start the motor spinning at a low speed with low backtension. (Keep it under 3X projection speed.) Remember, speed and tension will increase as you near the end of the reel.

Betsie Beadling
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 178
From: Fairfax, Virginia, USA
Registered: Sep 2000

posted 03-23-2001 04:06 PM

Good Heavens

Does Bruce really Drink that Stuff!!!

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Bill Purdy
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 139
From: Seattle, WA
Registered: Oct 1999

posted 03-23-2001 04:30 PM

There is a product called "Webril Wipes" which are not much more than conveniently shaped pads of cotton. They come either in rolls (from which the pads are about 6" square) or in packages of smaller individual ones. You can usually get them from graphics arts suppliers, art supply places and the like. When I was in the lab business we used them for all sorts of things including hand cleaning film. Our favorite stuff (trichloro-something) which is now a No-No. We mixed it with a tiny bit of pure wax, hung a roller from the ceiling between the rewinds and slowly cranked it through.

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Bill Purdy
Component Engineering

Brad Miller
Administrator

Posts: 17775
From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99

posted 03-23-2001 04:40 PM

Betsie,

There is a lot of joking and sarcasm used on this site to aid in breaking the stress of the daily grind in working in this industry. Genrally these have little smileys denoting a joke and are only used in the extreme sense, meaning the jokes are so far out there (like a bent up Technicolor projector shipped via Airborne) that most anyone in the industry would know right off of the bat that it is a joke. If you haven't caught this one, do a search for "first pic of Technicolor's digital projector". Another great example of Film-Techers joking around is the thread "AMC retiring Clip" posted by Ian Price and Ky Boyd. Just do a search for "amc retiring clip" to find it. Probably the most infamous joke that continues to this day is Joe Redifer's classic fake ad for Kodak projection training last year (this is still joked about today whenever you hear reference to "digital beards"). You can find that one by searching the "Film Handler's Forum" for "Kodak projection training".

As to Bruce, after having many conversations with him...he may actually be drinking it!

Bruce McGee
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1776
From: Asheville, NC USA... Nowhere in Particular.
Registered: Aug 1999

posted 03-23-2001 11:01 PM

Awwright...

Betsie: If you look closely, you will see that the top is on the bottle. If I drank the stuff, it would probably knock me ou.....

Brad: You are the way you are due to snorting vast quantities of the FG "Magical Ingredients!"

I am happy to be the spokesperson for FILMGUARD-UP® A new and exciting drink from Film-Tech! It'll tickle your innards!

One of the up-side benefits is that FG-UP kills bad breath, and tooth decay.

On the down side, it may cause one of your legs to be shorter than the other.

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