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Jonathan M. Crist
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 531
From: Hershey, PA, USA
Registered: Apr 2000

posted 05-10-2001 08:41 PM

As the operator a second run theatre I find that one of every four prints that I get (both from Technicolor and ETS) are missing the DTS discs. My calls of complaint are generally ignored (after all who cares about the second runs?)

It is truly sad what Ebay has wrought!

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Pete Lawrence
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 192
From: Middleburg, PA
Registered: Aug 1999

posted 05-10-2001 09:53 PM

I think your being a little hard on Ebay. The only ones I see on there are an occasional trailer disk and they are few and far between. DTS disks do show up on some collector boards, but not in any large quantities. After all, they are still useless without the DTS hardware. Now, trailers are another story.

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Aaron Sisemore
Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day!

Posts: 3061
From: Rockwall TX USA
Registered: Sep 1999

posted 05-11-2001 01:44 AM

>> My calls of complaint are generally ignored (after all who cares about the second runs?)<<

Don't bother calling the distributors or Technicolor. (they could care less IMO). Call DTS instead. Ask for Karen Hultgren. Request the proper disc(s). Watch them arrive the following day. Play your DTS movie in DTS. Piece of cake.

Aaron

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Mike Blakesley
Film God

Posts: 12767
From: Forsyth, Montana
Registered: Jun 99

posted 05-11-2001 02:16 AM

Results of calling depend on who screwed up.

Last time we didn't receive the disks, I called TES. They said they didn't have any. So we contacted DTS. They said they would take care of it. The following Monday the disks arrived....FROM TES.

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James R. Hammonds, Jr
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 931
From: Houston, TX, USA
Registered: Nov 2000

posted 05-11-2001 02:19 AM

Im glad someone brought this up.
My theatre doesnt even run dts and the guys who usually biuld up prints keep taking them out of the cans

FOR WHAT?!?!

Then theres another guy who likes to take them home because he has some Playstation game that will let him pull information off the disks to biuld characters.
Has anyone ever heard of this?
Since I have no authority over this person, I havent told him directly not to take them, but I have dropped subtle hints such as "You know some other theatre might need those."
He seems to think that thaey are automatically resent sine the print of Chocolat I biult up today came with them and the print was used.
What he doesnt realize is that the last theatre just might have done the right thing and returned them.
I asked my manager to talk to him about not taking these disks and only taking trailer disks for this purpose, so hopefully this will stop

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Joe Redifer
You need a beating today

Posts: 12859
From: Denver, Colorado
Registered: May 99

posted 05-11-2001 04:01 AM

The PlayStation game is called "Monster Rancher" or some such BS. It doesn't take data off of the CD, it just uses whatever is on there to "build" characters. Kind of like those nifty effects you see playing music in Winamp... it is all pretty random yet still based off of the music. You can insert an audio CD, data CD or whatever for this game to "use". I have never tried it. Sounds boring.

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John Pytlak
Film God

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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000

posted 05-11-2001 05:54 AM

"We have met the enemy, and he is us!" --- Pogo.

Not returning DTS disks with the print just hurts all of us. "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you": return the disks so the next theatre can use them.

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John Walsh
Film God

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From: Connecticut, USA, Earth, Milky Way
Registered: Oct 1999

posted 05-11-2001 08:12 AM

Many times Karen (from DTS) has pointed out that the discs are owned by the distributors. So even if DTS or TES has the discs, shipping them to your theater must be approved first. I'm sure DTS would love to provide everyone with discs to encourage the use of their products!

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Bill Langfield
Master Film Handler

Posts: 280
From: Prospect, NSW, Australia
Registered: Apr 2001

posted 05-11-2001 08:12 AM

Please return the DTS disks.

Its very anoying to have to play a movie that is DTS only, and not have the disk(s).

As much as I like DTS, the fact that the sound track is SEPERATE to the the print
will in the end, prove SRD the winner.
(Ive not seen a SDDS theatre- are there any?)

That said SRD error rates seem to always be in 5 to fail area - mainly EX soundtracks.

In the early days where the players
used caddies, Yes I kept a few, I wish
I kept few more, as they dont send them in caddies anymore, and we are still using DTS players that need caddies.

Bill.

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Bill Langfield
Master Film Handler

Posts: 280
From: Prospect, NSW, Australia
Registered: Apr 2001

posted 05-11-2001 08:30 AM

Erm, what i meant to say is :
Its sucks when you have a cinema that
has DTS only and don't have the disks.

When you have a SRD cinena its not a problem
because all prints these days ARE printed with SRD - ie no need to hunt up disks.

Bill. - bed time.

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Jesse Skeen
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1517
From: Sacramento, CA
Registered: Aug 2000

posted 05-11-2001 10:44 AM

I ALWAYS treat them as part of the print- when the discs come in those 'big round things' I stick those in the can before reel 1 so if you're doing everything in order the discs will be the first thing you take out of the can and get put in the DTS unit if needed. Returning a print without the discs should be treated the same as not returning all the reels!
BTW is "Chocolat" being re-released again or something? I had to build up a print of that last night- it was a used print in about the worst condition I've ever seen one delivered (thanks, Technicolor!

) but amazingly, the DTS discs came with it and they work. Has anyone gotten scratched-up or dirty DTS discs? What happens when you try to use them?

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Joe Redifer
You need a beating today

Posts: 12859
From: Denver, Colorado
Registered: May 99

posted 05-11-2001 04:20 PM

How does DTS feel about their discs being copied? Most CD Burners can easily copy a set of discs perfectly for another theater to use if they don't have any. And it's quicker than any overnight service. It's not like anyone makes a ton of $$$ off of the sale of DTS discs, and they can't be played in anything but a real DTS unit, so I wouldn't think that there would be a problem if the situation demanded it.

I have always returned the discs with my movies.

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Brad Miller
Administrator

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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99

posted 05-11-2001 05:23 PM

I have been asked before by studios to burn a set of discs for another theater when ones arrived scratched or broken. I can't imagine it being an issue. Without the print, they are pretty much worthless.

I have also been able to borrow another theater's discs to copy so that my theater could play the movie in digital when we received two "A" discs and no "B" disc. Being able to burn them on the fly is a lifesaver. I've always thought it would be great if dts could have an online archive so that people could click on a movie and download the discs to their hard drive and burn a copy for repertory movies, or when prints come with defective discs.

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Paul G. Thompson
The Weenie Man

Posts: 4718
From: Mount Vernon WA USA
Registered: Nov 2000

posted 05-11-2001 05:58 PM

DTS disks should be returned with the film. Theater owners and managers should insure this is happening.

DTS disks are more worthless than AOL disks, and why anyone wants to keep them is beyond me. They won't run in a PC or MAC enviroment.

As a collector's item, they are equally worthless.

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Joe Redifer
You need a beating today

Posts: 12859
From: Denver, Colorado
Registered: May 99

posted 05-11-2001 06:30 PM

DTS discs online is a good idea, but it would have to be a situation where you would call DTS up and they would put those discs on the site for a day. Since two discs (one movie) would equal over a gigabyte worth of data, storing multiple movies on the site would not be a good idea. Does DTS even have its own servers? A broadband connection would be absolutely necessary (duh). It would almost be easier if you had DTS just ship you the discs (or copies of them).

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