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Topic: MPAA and TAP stamps
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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
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posted 05-21-2001 04:13 PM
I've noticed a few prints coming in lately with the MPAA rating at the front of the feature, before the studio's logo. Is this going to become a standard (and required) practice? I don't know how others feel, but I like it. It lets the patrons know RIGHT THEN AND THERE that the movie they are about to watch may or may not be appropriate for them or their kiddies.I would like to see this implemented for the TAP prints. I say reel 1 should be: LEADER ATTACHED TRAILER 5 FEET MINIMUM OF BLACK (oh please pay attention to that one you lab guys!) MPAA RATING STAMP TAP STAMP FEATURE In this fashion not only would the patrons know the rating before the feature started, but they would be reminded to complain to the management if there are any problems and to call TAP after the movie. Just putting the TAP stamp at the end of the credits is not enough to truly get the most out of TAP controlled releases. Any thoughts on this? Anyone have a recommended wording that perhaps TAP would adpot?
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Brad Miller
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posted 05-21-2001 06:44 PM
Theaters run green bands with no film damage problems (ok, well the good ones do), so why should the rating band be any different? Besides, the new tags are white lettering on black background. They look very nice. I do agree that the "nudity, violence, etc" part of the rating stamp is not needed and would be best if left out of the beginning slate. However, the end slate should STILL be left in tact and not removed completely. The reasoning for the rating can be placed there, at the end of the movie. On the TAP stamp, I would definitely like for the lettering to cover the majority of the screen and be a reference for focusing. There should even be a line about the lettering being in focus. Also and very important, the TAP stamp should have some easily referenced center framing mark and CLEAR frame lines with a notation such as "if you see clear lines at the top and bottom of the screen, please report the misframing to the projectionist immediately". One step better would be to print on the analog sound track "this movie is not being presented in digital sound", whereas all 3 digital formats can have "this movie is being presented in Dolby Digital (or SDDS or DTS...whatever it is) sound" on the appropriate tracks. NO MORE FALSE ADVERTISING! But why stop there? Place the text over a bright yellow colored background and it could serve as scratch and dirt examination demo too. TAP could do an immense amount of good to presentations in general if they could get such ideas to fly. But are the studios interested?
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John Pytlak
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posted 05-21-2001 09:39 PM
IMHO, putting the rating tags and TAP info at the beginning of a movie are a very good idea. The audience should also be told that the theatre personnel appreciate hearing about any correctable problem (bad framing, misfocusing, sound level, etc.) immediately, so they can correct it. ------------------ John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging Eastman Kodak Company Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419 Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA Tel: 716-477-5325 Cell: 716-781-4036 Fax: 716-722-7243 E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com Web site: http://www.kodak.com/go/motion
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Ky Boyd
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From: Santa Rosa, CA, USA
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posted 05-21-2001 11:11 PM
Given the growing trend in logoitis on almost all films, I am not in favor of adding any additional content between the trailers and the feature. I swear there were four or five logos on the front of Billy Elliot. Saving Grace also had quite a few. Even O Brother had several. It's ridiculous to have all these logos and then at the beginning of the credits X, Y, Z, AA and B present a C, D, and E production of a G film. Put it in the credits and ditch the logos. There are features where I don't have a Dolby Digital tag put on between the trailers and the feature due to all the logos and other nonsense. Also, who is going to remember the TAP number if its at the beginning of the feature. Leave it at the end where it belongs. Putting it up front just creates an additional annoyance for those of us who are in non-THX theatres. If my patrons have a complaint about our presentation, they know they can address it with me, the owner. I don't need TAP between me and my customers.
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John Pytlak
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posted 05-22-2001 08:04 AM
Ky -- I agree the cluster of producton company logos before the film has sometimes become burdensome, and might better be put in the closing credits. But IMHO, putting the rating tag and any TAP tag BEFORE the film is a good idea. If they are at the very end of the credits (as they have been), 90% of the audience has probably left the theatre and never see them. I agree with you that the FIRST place any problems should be reported is to the theatre personnel. ------------------ John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging Eastman Kodak Company Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419 Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA Tel: 716-477-5325 Cell: 716-781-4036 Fax: 716-722-7243 E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com Web site: http://www.kodak.com/go/motion
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Ted Costas
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From: Hollywood, CA, USA
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posted 07-02-2001 06:32 PM
Brad,I would love our TAP tag at the head of a film... unfortunately, the studios want it at the end, if they want it at all. There is still a debate about how much control Distribution should have over Exhibition, and our end credit tag "1-800 PHONE THX" is one that crosses those lines. If I was the director and a theatre played my film improperly, I'd want the studio all over them... and when there are complaints, the studio does get involved. However, exhibition does have a responsibility to their patrons, a quality presentation, and we're there to help give the audience a voice when that's not the case. But at the head of the film... who do we think we are, ScreenCheck? I do agree that the rating tags at the head rather than the tail is a trend that needs to be thoroughly adapted... and soon, it probably will. And I loved Jerry Chase's suggestion about the popcorn and drinks... I may have to put him in touch with our marketing people. All the best, Ted Costas Manager, THX Theatre Alignment Program
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