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Topic: SDDS / SRD reliability
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John Walsh
Film God
Posts: 2490
From: Connecticut, USA, Earth, Milky Way
Registered: Oct 1999
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posted 06-02-2001 06:48 PM
I was talking to our district manager today, and he says our company is starting to see a lot of higher failures rates on SDDS and SRD prints. He thinks it's because the emulsion is getting scraped off by the trap rails, etc. That is why (he says) he is beginning to perfer DTS.My first thought was that "someone's not cleaning that hard junk the builds up on the trap runners (most of our projectors are Simplexes.) But he swears that is not the case; they are cleaned fairly regularly. He's pretty good at checking this; he goes right into the booth and looks at the projectors. So while he's not sure what causes the high error rate, the projectors are being kept clean. Does anyone else have any general thoughts about this?
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John Walsh
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Posts: 2490
From: Connecticut, USA, Earth, Milky Way
Registered: Oct 1999
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posted 06-03-2001 12:39 AM
OK, but remember, I'm not thinking of a few units. This problem of high error rates are a general impression of well over 100 SDDS and (mostly) SR-D units.Of course, I wish I had some hard data to support this "impression" the district manager has regarding the units. Is there any was for a DA20 to internally log the degradation? We don't have enough PC's to leave connected to all the units to monitor! I'm not sure how many lamp vs. LED Dolby readers we have, or even how many are basement readers. Do the LED readers stay in alignment longer than the older regular lamp type? Do you think that the (regular lamp type) should be changed more often than the manual recommends? Are basement readers still considered less reliable than the Cat 700 type? Does SDDS really suggest changing LED once a year? The LEDs only come on (full) when the reader sprocket is turning. Does the manual say how many hours you can expet from the LEDs? Do they stay in alignment? I know I'm being a bit vauge with my statement of our problem, but I guess I'm trying to see if this is fairly common. I guess I'm in the early "fact-gathering" stage to see if they fail more often then we know. Just as an example; if we were to find out, say, that there was a high error rate at theaters that used compressed air to clean, we would have a clue whats causing the problem and ask the operator to clean differently to prevent it.
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James R. Hammonds, Jr
Jedi Master Film Handler
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From: Houston, TX, USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 06-03-2001 03:08 AM
I just left a theatre that had 2 portable dolby digital units (that usually just stay on the big houses) that use cat 700 lamp readers. I never once knew these to fail...the only time i remember having a dolby digital problem was with a bad reel on forces of nature (i think it was that).SDDS was very problematic until that theatre actually got a booth manager and the LED arrays were changed and calibrted. This was on the 200 models. Im not sure either how long they are supposed to last because i never had to deal with them. sony did just come out and do a reader upgrade and changed all the LEDs so well see how long they last. The 3000 models have one LED that ive been told is never supposed to go bad. These were put into the theatre i now work at and weve had problems with them not reading properly since opening day. Also, the analog these new SDDS units produce has never been satisfactoy in my opinion. If it were up to me, the theatre would not have any sdds and i would go with either dolby digital or dts for my sound system.
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Brad Miller
Administrator
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99
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posted 06-03-2001 01:33 PM
The SDDS instruction sheet is in the manual download section under field bulletins, but does require an oscilloscope to adjust. It can be a bit finicky to get tweeked just right, but once it is the reader shouldn't give any problems for at least 6 months.The internal eq in those units is too harsh and digitized sounding for my taste anyway and I have taken to bypassing it and utilizing the eq circuitry in the Dolby processor, which just wastes money on that part of the SDDS player that is no longer being used. However I have obtained magnificent results when wired in this manner. Why the need to offer internal eq in the first place is beyond me. If you've got a cat700 SRD penthouse, be sure and check that power supply/molex connector. I've had a couple that would damage the lamp after a month or so running.
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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!
Posts: 12814
From: Annapolis, MD
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 06-04-2001 12:46 AM
SDDS' equivalent to the DA-20 is the DFP-D2500. It uses the 3000 series reader but is only an attachment, like the 2000 was. Also, for you changeover houses, it has two input streams unlike the previous SDDS and Dolby Digital where there is merely one that is switched. So far, the only SR emulation that I have found pleasing is the Dolby CP-650...none of the other analog (including Dolby's CAT222SR/A) nor digital attempts sound good to me...very harsh and non natural. So far, the CP650 has been a pleasing sounding processor for both digital and analog....I was pleasently surprised. I have not found the SDDS processors to have the brittleness described but I have found that the SDDS pink noise as generated in the 2000 to have an HF roll off as compared to either the Cat. 85 or CE SG-1 pink noise generators...as such if the same person tunes both the SDDS and another processor, the SDDS will sound more strident. Steve ------------------ "Old projectionists never die, they just changeover!"
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