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Topic: Jaxlight hijinks
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Randy Stankey
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Posts: 6539
From: Erie, Pennsylvania
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 06-12-2001 08:00 PM
I was reading the other thread about sound problems and Darryl said... quote: Are you using a jax light exciter lamp red led for your sound source. If so these are notorious for picking up huming...
Here's something that has happened to me twice, in two locations, during the last week. I was getting complaints of a "crackling" sound in the speakers. Theatre personnel were telling me that they must have a blown speaker or something. I replied, "It can't be...", because in the setups they had it was highly unlikely. When I got there and listened to it, there was a sound like an old, scratchy vinyl record comming from the speakers. I must have worked on that projector for five or six hours (overnight) aligning and realigning the A-Chain and checking all the system components. After a while I gave up and called for help. Here is what I was told... IF your projector drive belts (Simplex PR-1050) rub against the pulley flanges they will become frayed along the edges. As those frayed parts come whizzing past, the sound head will actually pick this up and it can be heard in your speakers during the quiet parts of the films. I changed the belts and double checked their alignment. The problem went away! I just had the same problem in another theatre. (identical eauipment) First thing I did was to change the belts. Wouldn't you know it... Problem solved! Not only that, if you're not careful, the vibration from the projector motor running can be heard if you turn the volume control up high enough. Just wondering if anybody else has any stories to tell like this.
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Randy Stankey
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From: Erie, Pennsylvania
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 06-12-2001 09:17 PM
That's very similar to the sound my projectors made. The only difference it had more of a pulsing, "Woosh...Woosh" quality.Like I said, I thought it was an out of line A-Chain at first. (More than one print had the same symptoms, thereby ruling out scratched film.) The film path was running perfectly. There were no blown bearings or anything like that either. I checked to make sure there wasn't something in the processsor... swapped out all cards. I swapped out he Jaxlite preamp. I tested for bad grounds, etc. Nothing worked. Then I noticed that the thing made the sound even while there wasn't film in the projector. If I pulled the exciter lamp (Now converted to the Jaxlite unit) out of the projector but kept the exciter power ON (thus keeping the preamp running)the sound was still there. I hooked the scope up to it (right at the USL's preamp inputs) and I could see the little spikes in the signal. I must have sat there staring at it for more than an hour, motor running with no film and no exciter lamp. I couldn't figure out for the life of me what the F*** was causing it. When I called for help I was told that Jaxlites are notorious for this as well as some other things. It's one of those things where drive belts are one of the LAST things you would think to check. When the theatre manager asked me what I did to fix it she just said, "What the....?"
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Randy Stankey
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From: Erie, Pennsylvania
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 06-13-2001 01:21 AM
I hear ya', man! I have one theatre that has removed all of their incandescent lights from the hallways and theatre entrances and replaced them with fluorescent 'capsule lights'. Every time I would walk into one house I'd hear this hum. It would go away as I got closer to the speakers, making it very hard to "find". It took me two or three visits to finally realize that it was from one of those capsules!I like the idea of the Jaxlite, but with that preamplifier (which has something like a +15 dB gain) it picks up all kinds of junky interference. Wanna' good demonstration on why you should keep the lights off in the booth when you have Jaxlites? Wait till you have an empty house. On the last show of the night, for instance. Open the sound head door and stand about 3 feet from the projector. Hold a Bic lighter about waist high and flick it two or three times. That puppy will pick it up and it'll sound like gunshots going off! That's how sensitive they are!
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Randy Stankey
Film God
Posts: 6539
From: Erie, Pennsylvania
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 06-13-2001 08:53 PM
I much prefer the CE reverse scan kit. It's just about as easy to convert to the reverse scan as the Jaxlight. Furthermore, it's 10 times easier to align the A-chain and you get 10 times better results.Here's another thing I found with Jaxlight... I got a call about the sound being muffled. I "scoped it out" and the it was perfect. The lens was clean, too. The RTA showed a huge dip in the pink noise response at right around 8 KHz. I couldn't bring it back up by adjusting the preamp. The solution I found was to move the cell a bit higher so that the slit image was falling on another part of the cell. The response came right back up. When I called to ask for advice I was told the hypothesis is that for some reason the cell is somehow "burning out" because of the wavelength of the LED or something like that.
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