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David Whitbeck
Film Handler

Posts: 70
From: Tempe, AZ
Registered: Jun 2001


 - posted 07-23-2001 12:36 PM      Profile for David Whitbeck   Email David Whitbeck   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I'm running a Simplex 35 with a 701 penthouse reader and an SH-75 soundhead down below. The 35 has a 3 pad studio gate with forward/reverse tension shoes. The green band is scratching on the soundtrack side and it's leaving quite a mess. I've had piles of shavings after a show. I've checked over everything again and again and I can't find where it's scratching. Any ideas?

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Matthew Bailey
Master Film Handler

Posts: 461
From: Port Arthur,TX
Registered: Sep 2000


 - posted 07-23-2001 12:53 PM      Profile for Matthew Bailey   Email Matthew Bailey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
It could be your trap & gate.Remove & dismantle the gate & trap
& check for gouges,scoring,burrs & rough spots. You may have to remove
& check the sprockets& pad rollers & strippers on the sprockets.
Check the intermittent shoe also,& the sond drum & all
rollers & lateral guide roller assembly in sound head.
Check readers & see if theyr'e scraping the film.
Whether your'e running reels or platters, run a test film
unscratched & eye each part of the film path & figure out what
is scratching the soundtrack.

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John Pytlak
Film God

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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000


 - posted 07-23-2001 01:19 PM      Profile for John Pytlak   Author's Homepage   Email John Pytlak   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Ditto to Matthew's suggestions.

Which side (emulsion or base) is being scuffed/scratched by the projector? If you don't see a scratch, it may be that you are scuffing the film edge or chipping away at the perforation area.

Look first at the area in the film path where the skivings are building up.

The "pile of shavings" can be identified by some simple tests:

Gelatin emulsion will dissolve in laundry bleach (sodium hypochlorite) and usually has color. Under a microscope, you can see the structure of the dye-containing layers.

Acetate support will dissolve in splicing cement.

Polyester support is impervious to most solvents, including splicing cement.

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Matthew Bailey
Master Film Handler

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From: Port Arthur,TX
Registered: Sep 2000


 - posted 07-23-2001 04:23 PM      Profile for Matthew Bailey   Email Matthew Bailey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
From what you & John mentined,it's probably the SDDS track.
Which part of the soundhead & projector are the shavings accumulating?

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