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Topic: Spy Kids re-release
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Charles Everett
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1470
From: New Jersey
Registered: May 2001
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posted 08-09-2001 05:22 PM
Started this thread to continue a discussion that began in the Features & Trailers forum.I asked, "Are new prints being struck or is Technicolor shipping older prints? At least 1 reel has to be re-printed due to the new footage." We've got our answer: Very few new prints. Usually old beat-up prints with a new R4 in place of the original R4. This from the studio that arranged to have IB Tech prints for Apocalypse Now Redux. Jonathan said, "Welcome to the world of second-run exhibitor." Not! Miramax is handling Spy Kids like a new release -- commercials, newspaper ads, etc. For the re-release most theaters are running it in a double-up for matinees only. That's due to product flow and the fact there's other kid-friendly product out there.
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John Pytlak
Film God
Posts: 9987
From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 08-10-2001 07:36 AM
It sounds like there was not even an attempt at "rejuvenating" the old prints. When "Lion King" was re-released by Disney, over 1000 prints were completely rejuvenated at TES by a special aqueous rewash process to clean the film and heal emulsion side scratches, and treatment of base-side scratches. These extra services (full inspection, rejuvenation) are available to distributors, IF they pay for them.------------------
John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: 716-477-5325 Cell: 716-781-4036 Fax: 716-722-7243
E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com
Web site: http://www.kodak.com/go/motion
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Bernie Anderson Jr
Master Film Handler
Posts: 435
From: Woodbridge, New Jersey
Registered: Apr 2000
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posted 08-10-2001 08:24 AM
People are gonna be pissed. I was when I opened the can. 1st, it was thrown in the can, some reel bands on and some hanging (did anyone get the new plastic reel bands, they suck by the way). The head of R4 was rapped around R3 and crunch and twisted in the can. 2nd I called Technicolor and said I hope this "print" you sent me was rejuved and inspected. I had three coming in and three going out I don't have enough time to go through this print. Their response was, we never had a compaint yet. What? They haven't done this in years, probably since 1994 Lion King. She told me there was one reel with new footage (by the way, ONE scene), she wasn't sure if it was at the end of R3 or head R4. Why would she know? She works at Technicolor. What, were they putting the one new scene that we've seen on TV from the comercials in where ever they wanted to? At first I really thought this was a great idea , kind of like when they used to reissue movies in the past, but if they're telling people that there are new scene(s), people, I would expect, think that they are paying $9 to see a new print. Now they're paying $9 for something that looks like it's been through 3rd run theatre (half my credits are crunched). If I was paying for this, I would be mad
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Brad Miller
Administrator
Posts: 17775
From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99
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posted 08-10-2001 08:41 PM
That rewashing process that TES offers is indeed beneficial, but that Dacar's ImageGuard that TES applies to the base side of the film is shit. I will NOT play a film that has been through that crap. (That statement has been proven by as many as 6 rejected prints in a row to run a specific movie that was ImageGuarded on my behalf. The 7th print finally came in that was untreated and was fine.) That Dacar junk is about as helpful as smearing Super Glue onto the print. Sure it covers up the scratches, but the effects of shedding like there is no tomorrow, the non-stop static attack, the constant film sticking together and the ungodly amount of registration shaking that accompanies those treated films is NOT worth it and is a complete waste of money. If TES would just simply rewash the prints and leave it at that, then all would be well.Bernie, if your theater gives a flip about your customers and your presentation, just refuse to run it. Period. End of story. No discussion. (Watch as a good print quickly appears on your doorstep after shutting down the auditorium.) I cannot stand running re-issues for this reason.
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