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Topic: Dolby/DTS/SDDS/THX sound trailers
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Michael Brown
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From: Bradford, England
Registered: May 2001
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posted 08-11-2001 07:09 AM
I am refering those 30 second snipes that play infront of a movie. I basically wanted to know if everyone out there plays them and why? I am in favour of them because most importantly they let audience members like us know what sound formatt is being used? I started this topic as all of my local cinemas dont frequently bother to show them? For instance the cinema in the Museum of film here is equiped with Dolby digital / DTS and SDDS and i have only once seen a dolby logo in front of a film. I assume everything is played in Dolby digital. Also i recently saw Rush hour 2 in a auditorium equiped with both Dolby Digital and DTS. The presentation was definately digital sound but there was no sound snipe so which sound system was used?? I tend to prefer the sound of DTS so if i knew that this cinema used DTS when possible I would go there often, but with no sound logo I assume Dolby Digital is being used so I attend a Dolby Digital only cinema which cost less to travel to. what do you guys think? ------------------ ------------------ Michael Brown Bradford Student Cinema www.Bradfordstudentcinema.co.uk "Do you snorkle? No, I get nervous when brightly coloured fish stare at me face to face."
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John Walsh
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posted 08-11-2001 08:51 AM
While IO personally like them, I discourage staff from putting them on. If a THX trailer/snipe is on a feature, then that feature is moved to a non-THX house, they forget to remove the trailer. Generally, we don't have enough staff to do this. It's a little thing to do, but there are already too many "little things" to keep up with.Since it is sort of like advertising for ourselves, it would be nice to show off our sound system. However, by *not* running them, I feel the patron is not "out" of anything, or getting screwed somehow.
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Scott Norwood
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posted 08-11-2001 11:34 AM
We don't show them much at the multiplex, either, also because prints move around too much. At a certain 5-plex, we have three DTS houses (two mounted in the rack, one in a rolling cart), one SDDS house (rolling cart), and one SR-D house. Only one house is THX certified. Since prints tend to move at least once a week, chances are very good that the wrong trailer would end up playing in the wrong house, which I would personally consider to be worse than not showing the sound trailer at all. Also, the question arises of what to do when a print is interlocked in multiple houses with different sound formats. If I am running a print only once for a screening or something, I will always add the sound trailer(s) because I personally like them, but it's not really practical, unfortunately, to expect that the proper trailers will be run for every show in a multiplex that is essentially management-run for most of the week. If the entire complex had only one digital format in all houses and/or if the booth were staffed full-time with competent employees who cared about such things, I would, of course, feel differently.
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Aaron Sisemore
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posted 08-12-2001 03:32 AM
>>Does Dolby or DTS send out free replacement trailers to theatres with their equipment or do they charge?<<Dolby and THX (if you are certified of course) send out replacement trailer sets for the asking (usually 1 flat/1 scope of a particular type per screen). DTS sometimes charges (I believe around $30 per screen for a set of four, 2 flat/2 scope) and sometimes throws a few free ones your way, especially if you are a good customer ![](http://www.film-tech.com/ubb/biggrin.gif) Sony charges like $50 each or some other ridiculously high price for their trailers, that's the main reason I never bothered with getting the new style SDDS logos. Aaron
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David Kilderry
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posted 08-13-2001 05:04 AM
This is somewhat disappointing to hear what goes on, or rather doesn't go on the front of features. I supervise a circuit of several hundred screens and we go to great lengths to ensure our patrons know they are about to hear the film in one of the 3 digital formats or in one of our THX houses. DTS and SDDS logos have come to us free of charge, Dolby supplies initial batches with each processor installation and THX supply new logos upon each re-certification. I want our patrons to know that we have more digital equipped houses than any of our competitors, which is indeed the case. Our policy for 4 years has been one of 100% digital in every new location we build. In case you are wondering, yes I was working as a projectionist in the last 8 years and have certainly had to remove digital or THX logos from prints as they move houses. I can not even guarantee that on a rare occaison that an inappropriate digital logo has been run, but to me this is far outweighed by the thrill the audience has after seeing the full SDDS logo or Dolby Digital Train followed by THX Tex. The ooohhhs and aaahhhs from the audience always give me a thrill and are all part of the presentation the big theatre screens and big theatre sound can deliver. The cost of new logos is a small price to pay to tell the audience what they are getting in our theatres. After all, the audience IS listening. David Kilderry
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John Pytlak
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posted 08-13-2001 10:53 AM
David Kilderry said: "...the thrill the audience has after seeing the full SDDS logo or Dolby Digital Train followed by THX Tex. The ooohhhs and aaahhhs from the audience always give me a thrill and are all part of the presentation the big theatre screens and big theatre sound can deliver... After all, the audience IS listening."I agree that showing the proper sound trailers with digital sound is all part of "SHOWMANSHIP" that is too often a victim of the cost-cutting mentality in today's multiplex. If there isn't enough time to change out the trailer if the print is moved, shouldn't there be? ![](http://www.film-tech.com/ubb/frown.gif) As a poor compromise, how practical would it be to put the sound trailers at the head of the roll, and bypass them if the print is not in a digital house? ------------------ John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging Eastman Kodak Company Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419 Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA Tel: 716-477-5325 Cell: 716-781-4036 Fax: 716-722-7243 E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com Web site: http://www.kodak.com/go/motion
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