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Topic: Changeover cue dots.
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Paul G. Thompson
The Weenie Man
Posts: 4718
From: Mount Vernon WA USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 09-17-2001 02:17 AM
Personally, I like the change-over cues. When I am sitting in an auditorium proofing a movie that is looking for a place to happen, I use those cues to determine how much more time I have to spend in agony waiting for the end to come.A couple of years ago, a teen-age friend of mine treated me to a movie "The Matrix". Of course, I didn't want to be rude, so I just sat there counting the reels using the cue sets as a reference. He never knew the difference. The first five reels really were a drag......but when reel 6 hit, that movie finally started kicking butt. Funny - I noticed the cues at the end of the sixth reel. I was then hoping it was an 8 reeler...  So, it backfired on me, and I broke down and purchased the DVD. 
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Pete Naples
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1565
From: Dunfermline, Scotland
Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 09-17-2001 02:34 AM
Absolutely, there a LOT of change over houses still around. Also when you are working with 'art house' material, which could be almost any aspect ratio, sometimes the cue dots can be a useful guide to the correct ratio to screen it in (assumign the lab has put them in the right place!) Not a method I like, but if you've no other information to go on, at least it's a start.I've just completed what is certainly my smallest change over installation. the booth is 12' wide, 8 ' deep and 6' high. In there I have two Centurys with Super Lume-X. 2 T&R Rectifiers, a shoulder height sound rack, a Rigby horizontal motor rewind table and an air conditioner. We had to have holes cut into the ceilign to allow 6'000 foot spools to be run, the holes were then boxed over above, and had to be carefully positioned to allow for the steelwork of the building roof. I'll take some pictures soon.
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Bernard Tonks
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 619
From: Cranleigh, Surrey, England
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 09-17-2001 06:54 AM
Actually I do miss doing and seeing changeovers. I was quite contented running years ago with 6,000’ spools, and got a great kick out of the Cinemation doing a most perfect changeover! and I did need the cue dots to position the pulses (36 frames in advance). It was only until I was offered a double-sided Westrex Tower with 6 spools, a ½” spindle rewinder & 6k plate at a bargain price of £600.
Until the copy this week changeover cues unless mutilated, have never been a problem to me, and I do see the need for them for the many remaining changeover houses.
Pete, Your latest project must be interesting, I remember seeing a picture where there was insufficient ceiling room, so the 6,000’ spools were mounted side-on from the front of the projection box wall.
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John Pytlak
Film God
Posts: 9987
From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 09-17-2001 07:19 AM
I agree with Gordon that it is much better to have the changeover cues printed-in by the lab, than hand-scribed by the theatre. And as long as there are theatres that use changeovers, all prints should have the cues.If the theatre needs to add special cues (e.g. curtain or lighting cues), they should be unobtrusive, and REMOVED before sending the print on to the next theatre. Likewise, be sure to remove all foil cues used for automation. ------------------
John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7525A
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: 716-477-5325 Cell: 716-781-4036 Fax: 716-722-7243
E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com
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Pete Naples
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1565
From: Dunfermline, Scotland
Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 09-17-2001 08:45 AM
Dam straight that was a bargain Bernard!I once bought a package like that for £50, unfortunately we couldn't get the complete tower out of the building, so we took the motors, control panel etc and left the carcas. Even at that it was still a bargain getting all those spare bits. I used to put change over cues on with chinagraph, which of course is easily removed. Tabs etc cues I used little white adhesive dots, again easily removed, and with automation, the foil stickers come off easily too. This little booth I've built is a cracker! We were toying with hanging the spools from the ceiling, but they'd have had to go behind the lamphouse, which wouldn't have worked as the the booth isn't deep enough to allow that. It looks odd as it is, but it works very well indeed.
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Josh Jones
Redhat
Posts: 1207
From: Plano, TX
Registered: Apr 2000
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posted 09-18-2001 08:45 AM
I usually loose count. I use the marks at home for my carbon arc booth. just when you get into the movie, the screen starts to turn purple. Oh well Josh
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