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Joe Beres
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 606
From: Minneapolis, MN, USA
Registered: Nov 2000

posted 09-18-2001 04:56 PM

This will seem like an odd request, but do any of you have burned frames that you have cut out of prints? I have collected a few that I have had to remove over the years, and I looking to shoot some macro photographs of the burned frames. I think they make for interesting imagery. I can't really offer any money, but I would pay postage both ways if anyone can help me out. Thanks,

Joe Beres
Madison, WI

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Ken Lackner
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1907
From: Atlanta, GA, USA
Registered: Sep 2001

posted 09-18-2001 05:07 PM

I get burned frames a lot at my old crappy-ass theatre.

I will try to rember to save them for you.

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Brad Miller
Administrator

Posts: 17775
From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99

posted 09-18-2001 05:38 PM

Just take a trailer and run it, stopping the projector motor wherever you want a burned frame. Make sure to find something deserving though, like Mummy Returns.

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Joe Beres
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 606
From: Minneapolis, MN, USA
Registered: Nov 2000

posted 09-18-2001 05:42 PM

Thanks, Brad. Eventually, I think I will end up doing exactly that, but I like the idea of using frames "killed in action" if they can be found.

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Charles Everett
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1470
From: New Jersey
Registered: May 2001

posted 09-18-2001 07:48 PM

Or perhaps . . . Freddy Got Fingered . . .

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Ken Lackner
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1907
From: Atlanta, GA, USA
Registered: Sep 2001

posted 09-18-2001 08:50 PM

For record, I like Tom Green.

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Joe Redifer
You need a beating today

Posts: 12859
From: Denver, Colorado
Registered: May 99

posted 09-18-2001 09:24 PM

Why?

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Randy Stankey
Film God

Posts: 6539
From: Erie, Pennsylvania
Registered: Jun 99

posted 09-18-2001 11:32 PM

Make yourself a loop of film and get it running. Then stop the motor and let the projector coast down. When it slows down enough to burn the film, take your hand and keep spinning the flywheel. Not only will you be able to make more frames, you'll be able to "regulate" the amount of burn on the frames by how fast you spin the wheel.

Also, it's a good way to help insure you don't burn the shutter.

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John Pytlak
Film God

Posts: 9987
From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000

posted 09-19-2001 10:56 AM

Randy said: "Then stop the motor and let the projector coast down. When it slows down enough to burn the film, take your hand and keep spinning the flywheel. Not only will you be able to make more frames, you'll be able to "regulate" the amount of burn on the frames by how fast you spin the wheel."

Some older projectors may still have a centrifugal fire shutter, which automatically closed if the projector slowed down (required in the days of flammable nitrate film). So you may also need to hold that shutter open if you want to burn some frames. Dark scenes will burn faster than light scenes, since they absorb more energy. If you are publicly displaying these images as artwork or selling them, don't forget that the images are usually copyrighted.

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Ken Lackner
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Atlanta, GA, USA
Registered: Sep 2001

posted 09-19-2001 01:53 PM

I like Tom Green because he's funny in a stupid way. But it's supposed to be like that.

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Joe Redifer
You need a beating today

Posts: 12859
From: Denver, Colorado
Registered: May 99

posted 09-19-2001 02:27 PM

Well, Tom Green certainly doesn't have the ability nor talent to be anything else.

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Charles Everett
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1470
From: New Jersey
Registered: May 2001

posted 02-26-2002 06:20 PM

Frames "killed in action"? Why not?

Any "Oscar Bait" release from Miramax will do.

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Will Kutler
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1506
From: Tucson, AZ, USA
Registered: Feb 2001

posted 02-26-2002 06:59 PM

Tom Green

I feel sorry for his parents and some of the crap he reportedly pulled on them, like the slut mobile. If that scum was my kid, god forbid, I would literally have beaten the

out of him long ago, a frontal lobotomy and permanent institution in a psych hospital would not be a bad idea, either!

About burned frames and letting motors coast down....some of the soundheads like the Simplex SH1000 and RCA units had a flywheel with a break. Remove the brake. Using the brake does nothing but put extra stress/wear on the entire projection gear train and could cause damage!

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Paul Harnden
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 107
From: Chandler, AZ, USA
Registered: Oct 2001

posted 02-26-2002 07:46 PM

I had some burned frames from "Emperor's New Groove" which were BIA. I put some scotch tape around them for preservation, but lost them a while later.....

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Scott Norwood
Film God

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From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas)
Registered: Jun 99

posted 02-26-2002 07:58 PM

What projectors _don't_ have fire shutters? All the Simplexes and Centurys that I've seen do. I don't remember about V5s at the moment...

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