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Author Topic: Christe platters AW3 vs AW3R Keith Peticolas Expert Film Handler Posts: 108 From: Eagle River, Alaska, USA Registered: Aug 2001 posted 09-22-2001 05:05 PM                     Hello folks. Riddle me this, is there any difference between a Christe AW3 and AW3R, and if so will the tweaking platters section in the tips area work for both? Thanks. keith p  |  IP: Logged Aaron Sisemore Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day! Posts: 3061 From: Rockwall TX USA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 09-22-2001 05:10 PM                     AW3 is the fixed (Bolted down) brains, AW3R is removeable brains. Thats the only difference. Aaron  |  IP: Logged Keith Peticolas Expert Film Handler Posts: 108 From: Eagle River, Alaska, USA Registered: Aug 2001 posted 09-22-2001 05:16 PM                     Thanks Aaron, good to know. Have a good one. kp  |  IP: Logged Don Sneed Master Film Handler Posts: 451 From: Texas City, TX, USA Registered: Aug 2001 posted 09-22-2001 10:07 PM                        Keith, the AW3, if you have an old manule that dates back to 1977,78 do not use the timing procedure, I found that version was wrong, I tried several years ago to timed the platters using that manule & was wrong, I talked to a friend who instructed me the correct way & been doing that since !! When I was at your theatre with Scott to do the retrofit, I didn't notice any manuals....but if you need any help on timing & adjusting the LED's, e-mail me at Dons@goucs.com & I will walk you though if you need it....  |  IP: Logged Aaron Sisemore Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day! Posts: 3061 From: Rockwall TX USA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 09-22-2001 10:24 PM                     Use Brad's methods for timing. A little tweeking afterwards and things are SO MUCH BETTER. Ignore the Christie manual unless you enjoy picking up launched prints from the floor. Aaron  |  IP: Logged Scott D. Neff Theatre Dork Posts: 919 From: San Francisco, CA Registered: Oct 1999 posted 09-23-2001 01:36 PM                        I never had any problems with Christie's recommendations. It only seemed that everybody else did, but I was fine. The only thing about Brad's way of timing them that leaves me somewhat worried, is releasing the tension on the feed-control fork. I still go into my old theatre (timed by Aaron, Brad's way) -- and I find the platters are still spinning once a film has tailed out. But I suppose that's a small quibble to have, but still.  |  IP: Logged Freddie Dobbs Expert Film Handler Posts: 115 From: Pinson, AL, USA Registered: Jun 2001 posted 09-24-2001 09:49 PM                     "Use Brad's methods for timing. A little tweeking afterwards and things are SO MUCH BETTER. Ignore the Christie manual unless you enjoy picking up launched prints from the floor." Another thing about the Christie manuals that burned me was you could pick up 3 different manuals and get 3 different ways to do it. OK, I'll byte what is "Brads way"  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 09-24-2001 10:15 PM                     Scott/Aaron, if the platters are still turning at the end of a show, the spring tension is just a bit too loose. The arm should make it's way back to 0% when the film runs through.  |  IP: Logged Aaron Sisemore Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day! Posts: 3061 From: Rockwall TX USA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 09-24-2001 10:42 PM                     Freddie: Go to the 'Tweeking Christie Platters' section of the 'Tips' link here. It's all there. -Aaron  |  IP: Logged Don Sneed Master Film Handler Posts: 451 From: Texas City, TX, USA Registered: Aug 2001 posted 09-25-2001 05:05 AM                        Hey Guys, here's my 2-cents...on the AW3 if the platter still turns a little, I found the LED to be bad almost everytime, even though the LED ohms were adjusted to 70K, the LED can still be bad, replace it, adjust the ohms to 70K...all works properly, if that doesn't fix the problem check to see the light vane is not rubbing the sensor, if not then check the spring action, & if that don't work, get a SPECO Platter !!  |  IP: Logged Michael Barry Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 584 From: Sydney, NSW, Australia Registered: Nov 1999 posted 09-25-2001 12:12 PM                     I agree that SPECO have the 'plug and play' convenience that Christie platters do not have. The question is, what can Christie platters do (once tweaked) that SPECO platters cannot? BTW, I've been thinking of writing a review for the Kinoton IR payouts units...I just need a digital camera for the pictures.  |  IP: Logged Aaron Sisemore Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day! Posts: 3061 From: Rockwall TX USA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 09-25-2001 12:32 PM                     >>what can Christie platters do (once tweaked) that SPECO platters cannot?<< Such as? Please elaborate. Brad: I think the main reason the feed control arm doesn't automatically zero is more of a gravity problem (platter is not level) more than anything. I will be there today to have a look at it. -Aaron  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 09-25-2001 01:34 PM                     Has anyone had any problems with the AW3 pay-out heads damabing the film on payout? Seems as though the three spools have alot of tension on them, and pull themselves into each other. I see a possible disaster here with dirt buildup on these spools that couyod be hammered into the film. Scratching and buffing of the the digital tracks could be possible if one of the spools do not turn freely. Looks like the AW3 has too much contact with the film.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 09-25-2001 01:48 PM                     Paul, just remove the tension spring. This should be done on all AW3 platters. I don't know why Christie still sends them out from the factory this way. Instructions to do this are in the FilmGuard instructions and I believe it is on the Christie tips page too.  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 09-25-2001 03:07 PM                     Thanks, Brad. I'll yank those springs as soon as I can. Paul  |  IP: Logged

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