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Michael Pace
Film Handler

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From: Dalby, Queensland, Australia
Registered: Aug 2000


 - posted 10-20-2001 05:47 PM      Profile for Michael Pace   Email Michael Pace   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I have just heard that Strong has filed for Chapter 11 protection.

Would anyone like to clarify this situation?

Regards,

Michael.

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William T. Parr
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Cedar Park, TX
Registered: Nov 2000


 - posted 10-20-2001 06:56 PM      Profile for William T. Parr   Email William T. Parr   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
That would be news to me Michael. However I can say that it would not be surprising since most of Strong major customers have filed for Chapter 11 for protection against creditors. If they did, it is only because everyone else has done this to be protected from Strong getting what is owed them right now.

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Pat Moore
Master Film Handler

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 - posted 10-22-2001 09:09 AM      Profile for Pat Moore   Email Pat Moore   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi;

A quick, one word answer: NO!

Ballantyne of Omaha / Strong International is still alive and kicking, working at getting better.

I am so tired of hearing those stories and would love to know where this one started. Gossip's a wonderful thing. According to some of these sources, we've been filing or going to file up to five times over the last year-and-a-half. At some stage, doesn't that become a lousy way to compete?

We're a public company so there's no denying the times have been tough. Any manufacturer of new equipment that says they are doing well in the industry right now also has a sale on quality land(fill) at a can't-be-beat price. Among those stories, often from our competition, are stories about Strong. Don't believe too many of them.

We've made some hard adjustments -- we are much smaller than we used to be, but we've been at that new size for about a year without further reduction. We've worked hard to reduce debt and make other necessary adjustments. We still make and stock and sell parts, components and major equipment. We're not going anywhere but ahead with business.

What's hurt us -- like anyone in the movie theatre equipment industry -- has been the drastic reduction in new sales. None of the Chapter 7 or 11 filings in the exhibition side of the business has hurt us in any other way.

We're still here... If you hear otherwise, feel free to ask.

Pat


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John Pytlak
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 - posted 10-22-2001 01:11 PM      Profile for John Pytlak   Author's Homepage   Email John Pytlak   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Pat: Glad to hear it from one who should know! Tough economic times help to focus the efforts of the companies that are in this business for the long haul and have faith in its future.

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William T. Parr
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 - posted 10-22-2001 02:19 PM      Profile for William T. Parr   Email William T. Parr   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Pat,

Glad to hear that none of the Chapter 7 and Chapter 11 filings is hurting you in a big way. Hoepfully things are going to rebound in the industry in the next few years to a respctiable level for all involved.


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Don Sneed
Master Film Handler

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From: Texas City, TX, USA
Registered: Aug 2001


 - posted 10-22-2001 06:30 PM      Profile for Don Sneed   Author's Homepage   Email Don Sneed   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hey Pat..that was good news, I was holding my breath...I keep telling my company to keep on selling, I'll install it...so keep on making the equipment !! Tell Troy, Dan, Jerry, & Ray hello for me...

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Steve Guttag
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From: Annapolis, MD
Registered: Dec 1999


 - posted 10-22-2001 09:29 PM      Profile for Steve Guttag   Email Steve Guttag   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Brad,

I'd like to go on record (again) by stating this type of rummor does nothing for the industry but hurt it. If someone can't substatiate such a rummor (like proving that such a filing has happened) then the thread should not just be locked but deleated. Leaving it in the records can only due harm and has NO useful purpose to anyone. All it takes is for someone to browse this sight...see the thread and casually state ..."yeah I was reading on the internet about Strong going bank...." and the rummors start a flying.

Strong is a good and reputable company that is very responsive to it's dealers and customers and _I_ take GREAT offense to such a rummor being spread without hard facts. >

Steve

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Ken Lackner
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From: Atlanta, GA, USA
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 - posted 10-22-2001 09:41 PM      Profile for Ken Lackner   Email Ken Lackner   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I do agree with Steve in that rumors should not be spread like that without evidence to back them up. However, I beleive that Michael was asking for clarification about a rumor that he heard, not spreading one himself, and I like the fact that we were able to hear directly from someone at Strong about the situation.

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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
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 - posted 10-23-2001 01:17 AM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
I don't think any harm was done. A Strong rep clarified this rumor within 48 hours and anyone reading the site now knows this straight from Pat Moore. If anything, if this rumor continues to circle around the industry, anyone who as read this thread will be able to stop it dead in it's tracks from spreading further. Besides, the title of this thread was "Strong in trouble?" clearly asking if this was true. The topic originator did not come onto the site saying "hey everyone, Strong is in trouble" presenting it as fact. Also deleting it would only keep the rumor floating for readers of this site.

Not to worry, if someone had not been able to provide facts on the situation, I would have contacted Strong directly on it after a few days. However as is usually the case, someone from the company will respond fairly quickly. Pretty much all of the companies with registered reps on this forum are very good about participating when a question arises.

Like you though, I do wonder how this sort of thing gets started.


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Randy Stankey
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 - posted 10-23-2001 02:20 AM      Profile for Randy Stankey   Email Randy Stankey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The trouble is that repeating rumors can perpetuate them. One small question, "Is it true that..." can snowball on you in no time.

However, people should remember the first rule of the internet: Believe no rumors. For some strange reson, peoples' "bullshit detectors" are easily short circuited when they read things like that.

After all, isn't this one of the reasons why they call it "the World Wide Wasteland?"

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Michael Pace
Film Handler

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From: Dalby, Queensland, Australia
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 - posted 10-23-2001 06:00 AM      Profile for Michael Pace   Email Michael Pace   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Pat,

Thank you for your response. In an age when we are seeing so many companies fold for all the wrong reasons, I can assure you that many of us are very consious to any report, rumour based or otherwise, that affects us.

Here in Australia there are not all that many Simplex projectors when compared to the others. We have 6 Simplex PR1060 projectors on 5 star soundheads and carry a small spares inventory, but I can assure you that in the long run we are sensitive to rumours that stock may dissapear from the market.

We also have CFS/Rentec consoles and that company has folded. Luckily most of the electrical equipment in these are fairly standard so that switches, blower motors etc are able to be sourced in Australia.

Pat, thank you once again for your reassurance and thank you to all who have replied to this posting.

Regards,

Michael.


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Mark Gulbrandsen
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From: Music City
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 - posted 10-23-2001 11:36 AM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Pat is right. We get parts and stuff from Strong several times a week. And they are better than ever at NOT back ordering parts and major stuff. Anyway,chicken fryer sales would keep the company afloat for many years to come. The restaurant side of Ballantyne was always way larger than the projector side of thngs.
Mark @ GTS

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Pat Moore
Master Film Handler

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 - posted 10-24-2001 07:27 AM      Profile for Pat Moore   Email Pat Moore   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi again;

First, Michael, Brad and all concerned, no offense at all taken from anyone asking for clarification or if something they heard is true. I appreciate the interest and I think this site's always been a great place to get a straight answer. I think we knew that as soon as Regal finally filed the questions would come up again.

For everyone supporting Strong and the industry in general, THANKS!

Mark -- while we do make chicken fryers and other restaurant equipment (did many other people realize that?), it is a comparatively small part of our overall business. Motion picture makes up 70-80+% of our total business over the last five years, and lighting products (spotlights, Xenotech, etc.) another 10-15%. Restaurant makes up the difference, but with recently increased sales outside the US that side of the business is growing nicely. Not quite ready to carry Ballantyne on its back, though...

Michael -- we are making some parts for some of the CFS products. If there are requirements down under, let us know and we'll try to be of service.

Pat


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Freddie Dobbs
Expert Film Handler

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From: Pinson, AL, USA
Registered: Jun 2001


 - posted 10-24-2001 09:42 AM      Profile for Freddie Dobbs   Email Freddie Dobbs   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Pat, you beat me to the punch about the chicken fryers, man that was some good chicken, I sure do miss it....I have lost weight though...

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Dave Williams
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From: Salt Lake City, UT, USA
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 - posted 10-24-2001 11:03 AM      Profile for Dave Williams   Author's Homepage   Email Dave Williams   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I think I have used some of these chicken fryers. I was always curious why my projectors smelled like fried chicken.

Dave

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