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Topic: Using DRAS on a Mac?
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Randy Stankey
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From: Erie, Pennsylvania
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posted 11-12-2001 01:28 PM
Has anybody out there done this?I'm about to give it a test run in a day or two. I've got the software running. It seems to be running OK. I just haven't tried to hook it up to a processor yet. I took the Keyspan USB/serial adaptor off my Palm Pilot and I've got it configured to be COM1. Thus far, it all seems to be OK. I was just wondering if anybody else had any advice. I'll report back when I get to the theatre and try it out.
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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!
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From: Annapolis, MD
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 11-12-2001 09:02 PM
I've actually found that SoftPC does better with DOS than Virtual PC. When I was in college...I routinely programed PCs and other Intel based chips on my Mac SE/30.My suspicion is that DRAS may "work" but the little square box will be very sluggish. WINDRAS will probably be too slow to use...but give us your results. Steve ------------------ "Old projectionists never die, they just changeover!"
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Randy Stankey
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posted 11-12-2001 09:32 PM
Yes, I'm using Virtual PC 4.0 and Windoze 98... under the auspices of an iBook 600 with OS 9.2.I have VPC running and it's pretty good. Only thing is that you need shiploads of memory to make it run right. Right now I have the 128 MB that comes standard. I'm looking for another 128, at least. When I get that I think it'll run great. On occasion I have noticed that it actually runs Windoze faster than on a PeeSee. Thing is, that when Windoze crashes there's a small chance that it can bring the Mac down with it. It happened to me once already. I have all the software installed and running OK. There is DRAS for Windoze, USL's DSP-60 program and the SDDS program. All of them run just fine. The problem is that the iBook only has USB ports and no DB-9 ports. IF I had the old-style ports it would be no problem. VPC can trick Windoze into thinking that any port on the machine belongs to IT. It can also make the USB ports work on Windoze too. So the kludge is that I'm gong to hook a Keyspan USB adapter to the Mac. VPC will successfully map the Keyspan to COM1. It shows up on the system just like normal. I called Connectix, the company that made VPC and asked their opinion. They tell me that some people have had success hooking a Keyspan adaptor up to a device using a generic DB-9 serial port and they HAVE made it work. However, they tell me that there is no guarantee that the Keyspan will be able to "see" the device on the other end. Essentially, it's a crap shoot. Thus, I was wondering if there was anybody out there who's done this or something similar who could give me pointers. Every OTHER time I come up with one of these crazy ideas I find out that somebody else has already done it. I just can't believe I'm the first guy in the world to do this.
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Steve Guttag
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posted 11-12-2001 09:46 PM
Oh, you may be the first.One thing I will recommend is that you make sure your Keyspan adapter has the latest driver running in your system. I don't know what version they are on now but until I upgraded to 1.7 on the extensions, it was less reliable...now the com port works just fine and I never even give it a second thought...its like my iMac has the good old Mac ports again....I still use my Imagewriter II for check printing all the time. Steve ------------------ "Old projectionists never die, they just changeover!"
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Randy Stankey
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posted 11-13-2001 09:49 PM
Well, folks! The results are in! I got both WinDRAS and DSO-60 to work!Here's the proof: WinDRAS DSP-60 They both worked the first time right off the bat. No fooling around whatsoever. I'm pretty stoked! Here is how I did it:
- Installed Virtual PC.
- Started VPC and installed the applications into VPC. (DRAS and DSP-60)
- Tested the apps to make sure they were OK before proceeding, then shut down Windoze.
- Installed the driver for the Keyspan USB/serial adapter. (Into Mac OS, not Windoze.)
- Plugged in the adapter. (You have to do this before configuring VPC or else it won't let you go any further.)
- Opened VPC settings panel.
- Set VPC to emulate COM1 as the Keyspan.
- Close the panel and start Windoze.
- Hooked up the serial cable between the adaptor and the processor.
- Started the application and connected.
- Proceeded normally.
I didn't notice any problems with speed. The displays all seemed to update normally just as they would if they were running on a Wintel machine. I didn't spend much time going through all the differrent modes and other things but I did trigger the pink noise generator on the DSP-60. It went through all the channels just like it did before. I didn't get a chance to try out the SDDS program because the theatre that I'm at, right now, doesn't have any SDDS. There's only a one of them on my regular route and only about 1/2 dozen of them in my whole region. Judging from the results I got with DRAS and DSP-60 I'm willing to bet that there'll be few, if any, problems with the SDDS program. I'm pretty glad this is all working out so far! It's nice to be able to carry around just one computer that can do anything instead of having two machines and switching back and forth depending on what I'm trying to do. It'd be REALLY nice if I could find an oscilloscope program (like WinScope) and a spectrum analyzer program. (like SmartPRO) That way I could put my computer on a cart and carry around just the select group of hand tools and test films I need to do system tune ups with. Heck! If I could work it out that way I bet I could do my quick system checks of an entire theatre in about 1/2 the time! Okay, so now that I'm officially the first guy to do this and document it, do I get a cookie or something?
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Randy Stankey
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posted 11-14-2001 01:45 AM
Gotta' FireWire, 2 USB's, and a video out that can be hooked to a VGA or a NTSC component video if you use the proper adapter. It comes with the VGA dongle. If you want the RGB you have to buy it seperately.Yeah, it's only a G3/600 but it's got a 100 Mhz bus. It's pretty zippy, especially compared to the iMac DV/400 I have. I think the iMac is getting a bit jealous. I've been paying so much attention to the iBook lately with getting all the software running and then figuring out how to get DRAS to run on it. (Oh, we can't forget CCmail! I have to use that too! ) That's OK because the iMac has a CD burner, a scanner and a 30 GB hard drive. The way I figure, I'll do all my real work with the iBook and let the iMac be the "hub". I have Airport installed in both machines. I can scan junk on the iMac and file share it back and forth. I can share the printer over the Airport and even use the iMac's modem for the internet. (Still don't have DSL. ) Imagine... There I sit on the back porch with Guiness in hand, typing on the iBook. A theatre calls and tells me that they can't get the Dolby Digital to run. I just click a few keys and say, "There you go! All fixed!" Hey! It could happen!
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