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Topic: A strange Century Projector??????
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Aaron Sisemore
Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day!
Posts: 3061
From: Rockwall TX USA
Registered: Sep 1999
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posted 11-20-2001 12:30 AM
Good Question! I am not certain about the LCAC part, but the SA is the standard non-turreted, single shutter soundhead-driven Century machine, and a standard Century SA manual should suffice parts-wise.Here's a translation to some of the Century 'alphabet soup' you might encounter: EARLY PROJECTORS: K('Kaplan'): The very first Century machine, very similar mechanically to a Standard Simplex. C:Older model from early 40s, single shutter, straight gate, non-removeable trap assembly. CC: Double Shutter version of the C H: Curved-gate version of the C, also using an intermittent movement very much like the Century of today. usually 1950's vintage. HH: Double Shutter version of the H JJ: 35/70 Century machine, double shutters, water cooled. VV: VistaVision (horizontal 35mm) machine. With the exception of the JJ (which might still be manufactured today), the above are the vintage Century machines. Later Century machines used a different system to identify the hardware: S=Single shutter (or 'Standard') M=Direct-drive D=Double shutter (or 'Drive-In') W=Water cooled gate T=Lens turret Examples of the varying models: A: The basic standard Century machine we all know and love. SA: Same machine, single shutter, no turret, air cooled. SAW: Same as above except water cooled MSA: Standard type 'SA' machine except utilizing 'direct drive' where the motor drives the picture head mainshaft rather than driving the soundhead. DA: Double-shutter version of the SA DAW: Water-cooled double-shutter. SB: 'SA' machine with the optional CineFocus® film-flattener system utilizing a vacuum to suck the film against the gate. TA: Turret-equipped standard Century machine. I am sure Pat can add the other letters and their meanings. -Aaron
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Will Kutler
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1506
From: Tucson, AZ, USA
Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 11-20-2001 10:53 AM
ScottAccording to the Century History in the Manuals Forum of Film-Tech, Century "C" production was from 1940 to 1962. I am of the understanding that all the gears on the "C" are interchangeable with the current production "SA". Contact Wolk and LaVezzi about parts. They are still being made and "C"s are still very much in service. I have personally seen Century Cinemarama machines that have been converted back to a "C". Aaron said that the flat trap "C" did not have a removable gate? Once again I have personally seen flat trap "C"s with removable gates. Kelmar makes a retrofit kit to convert a single lense mount "C" to a turret with a different gate/trap assembly also provided with the kit. Mark G. has experience with this retrofit and has posted a picture of one he converted under another thread in Film-Tech. I understand that the conversion is not cheap! From what I gather Mark really likes it. I have asked others who say that it is not the highest quality item, but that it successfully does the job. I have no experience with it, but was interested in more info.
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Will Kutler
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1506
From: Tucson, AZ, USA
Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 11-20-2001 05:57 PM
Gordon--Maybe we have a communication mix up? I refer to the gate as the moveable portion of the gate/trap assembly and the trap as the stationary portion. Mark Your having a time cutting cast iron? Anyhow, cast materials, whatever they may be, can be hell on cutter blades, whether they be drills, lathe tools, end mills etc. The reason is that cast materials have a "skin" from casting, and this "skin" contains silica from the sand casting process. This is what is probably causing your problem. Be very careful about using a torch! Not only can you possibly warp the frame, but you may also change metalurigical properties. How do carbide toos work?
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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!
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From: Annapolis, MD
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 11-20-2001 07:57 PM
LCAC does indeed refer to the Lens Changer and Aperture Changer it was a bit of a contraption...in fact, the LCAC machine has it's badge mounted higher up on the casting and the area where the badge would have gone milled out to accept the lens change thingy. I don't think I have seen a working one in 20 years. All of the ones I have encountered were converted to regular SAsTo add to the naming convention... B = Blower (Cinefocus) so you have your SB and DB varieties. The SA is really mis-named it was referred to as the "new-A" when it came out so really it should have simply been called the "A" and the double shutter version the "AA" I'm sure the "A" designator was not used (nor "AA") since those models had already been taken by other projector manufacturers. Moving on down... On the early "SA"s...they didn't have the gibbed trap assy as they do now...they retained the "H" gate and trap but the rest of the machine looks and feels like an SA...the odd thing...the light shield looks like the SA light shield but has the asbestos heat shield as part of the light shield. For an example of the early SA...see the Williamsburg theatre photos in the gallery...there is a good shot that shows the H style gates in genuine SA projectors (serial #150 and 151...which is read 50 and 51). I have just "upgraded" them to current SA style gates and traps and recut the light shield to accept the curret trap bracket (gibbed). Steve ------------------ "Old projectionists never die, they just changeover!"
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