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Topic: Where's the quality?
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John Pytlak
Film God
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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 12-29-2001 06:44 AM
Brad asked: "Is ScreenCheck completely dead?"The Kodak ScreenCheck program is alive and well, but the emphasis has changed. Theatre circuits were unwilling or unable to pay for routine evaluations of presentation quality, but were interested in Projection Training programs, and in Cinema Evaluation on a per-site basis. Most recently, ScreenCheck has been used by motion picture studios that need projection equipment at high-end theatre locations throughout the US checked and optimized before their movies premiere to the public: http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/screencheck/ ------------------ John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7525A Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA Tel: 716-477-5325 Cell: 716-781-4036 Fax: 716-722-7243 E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com Web site: http://www.kodak.com/go/motion
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Antonio Marcheselli
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1260
From: Florence, Italy
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 12-29-2001 02:25 PM
Joe,Yes, it is true. People are continuing to come to the cinema. Sometimes you'll see people that last time said that will never come to that cinema... However, since we are talking with numbers... At my theater, in Italy, we have the "Giornale dello spettacolo", a monthly magazine where you can find some news about the film world. There is also the list of city, classified for number of customers. Some time ago I wrote in this forum about Multiplex ARCADIA, that is the best Italy's theater (I would say World's). Its owner has an incredible care in presentation's quality. So, with few simple calculation I had the number of customers for day for screen in all major city. Since Arcadia is the only theater in its city, the values of that city can be considered about Arcadia itself. The result was that in all cities the average number of customers for screen for day is between 150 to 250. No more not even in bigger city. Melzo (the city where Arcadia is placed) has an average of 496 customers for day, for screen. During these day, Arcadia is the first theater in Italy showing "Atlantis" in Digital and from 1st January it will start with Imax 8/70. But with standard 35/70mm projections Arcadia gives to its customers the best possible quality. And, you saw, it has a results with numbers. So I can't understand owner that are making a "film done bad". Also, let me to express my disappointment with THX. I knew that at least in USA they care their installation. Bye Antonio
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Paul Cassidy
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 549
From: Auckland, New Zealand
Registered: Aug 2001
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posted 12-29-2001 04:04 PM
It has been really disappointing that the Latest Complex to open in Auckland is the cheapest equipped of them all, seems to have scrimped on everything , Recycled seating (recovered) from the previous closed Plex ,painted concrete flooring (increasing Reverb.)sound leaking from other Auditoriums, cheap looking light bulbs sticking out of the walls ,altogther a box with 4 walls and a Screen, if this is what Westfeild and Village cinema think is going to be the cinema of tomorrow ,well the does not seem to be much future ,5k or Miles approx. down the road is the Westgate 8 which is top notch, with an ambience of the theatres of old (if they had Curtains you would think you were in a 50s cinema) they would actually suit Water fall Curtains , Staff are great and presentation the Best (Real projectionist Trains staff) and the best is that this cinema is not part of the Westfield grasp or "Stick me on top of the Mall" syndrome.
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Dave Bird
Jedi Master Film Handler
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From: Perth, Ontario, Canada
Registered: Jun 2000
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posted 12-30-2001 02:45 PM
Paul, that's exactly what is needed. The ambiance of old. Sure, we'd all love to have an old single mom 'n pop, but most are gone. Conglomorates don't HAVE to be lousy, they just often are. I blame distribution practices. Imagine how it COULD be. Imagine if films were available to ALL exhibitors. It would be like restaurant chains, they've all got food, so which do you pick? Cleanest, best service, atmosphere, product? Of course. We went to a "Boston Pizza" the other night. Big chain "strip-mall" restaurant. BUT, I couldn't fault the food, service, anything. They'd obviously spent some money to make it feel like a "real" restaurant with the decor. The main difference is that there was an "owner" (oh, sure I know, he's highly leveraged and will never "own" any of it, but has a tremendous upside if "his" restaurant succeeds). You could see him walking the floor, making sure all was well, picking up messes, getting the "presentation" right. The point is that there are dozens of pizza joints I could've gone to. Theatres haven't had this kind of competition. But they'd better realize that their customers are starting to believe that there is an alternative, wait for the DVD. Maybe it's time they "franchised" out each location, made it worth somebody's while to be flawless. Meanwhile, find me at the mom 'n pop! (PS- Think about it, you KNOW what kind of quality you're going to get at the Pizza Hut, Holiday Inn, that's why you either go there or not. That's the raison d'etre for any chain. Why in hell should it be any different for theatre chains?)
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Jerry Chase
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1068
From: Margate, FL, USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 12-30-2001 03:39 PM
Greg, I think it is called SCORE. It sounds like a great idea.While I don't think the entire problem lies out of theatre owners hands, I do think the last minute shipping of tons of quickly made prints is one of the more STUPID ideas ever to grace the planet. 90/10 over nut is a problem, but demands for multiple screens is a bigger one, IMO. If only a state could legislate that only a single print of a film could show in a multiplex, you would see the return of "legs" and a revival of the big screens we all fondly remember. The megaplex idea was doomed from the start, and has killed a lot of exhibitors. My guess is that twelve screens is the outside limit for theatres designed to make money for the owner and not the distributor.
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Randy Loy
Expert Film Handler
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Registered: Aug 1999
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posted 12-31-2001 08:52 AM
I'm surprised that the film companies, who invest so much money into production and distribution of their product, don't exert more pressure on the exhibition end of the biz to make sure the product looks as good as possible on screen. Even if they are looking to digital projection to eventually solve all their presentation woes, you would think that they would in the meantime be pushing a little harder the exhibitors who feel that presentation quality with 35mm film is second in importance to other apsects of cinema operations. After all, the films that are being shown scratched, on underlamped projectors, on dirty or improperly masked screens, etc., bear the names of the film production and distribution companies. Doesn't the fact that their product is being made to look substandard by some non-caring folks in the exhibition end bother them?Maybe if distributors started awarding prints of new releases to theatres based on presentation quality, rather than by who has the most screens, etc., we'd see the big boys wake up and take more interest in doing film right.
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