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John Pytlak
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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 02-07-2002 07:28 AM
Standard SMPTE 195 specifies Projectable Image Area on 35mm prints. Yes, the image centerline is exactly BETWEEN two perfs. A SLIGHT vertical shift (0.005 inches) may occur when printing on a bi-directional printer, but being significantly off center should be investigated, as it could have occured during optical printing or digital compositing of the image.------------------
John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
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Michael Barry
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 584
From: Sydney, NSW, Australia
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 02-10-2002 07:36 PM
Hi Brad,Yes, John Wilson and I at the Randwick Ritz have encountered the same thing - not with Gosford Park (we don't have it yet), but with many other titles. It's been an ongoing saga! It's a bit annoying to hear that they still haven't solved the problem. Even the direction is identical as ours were too far down on the screen also. As we have six screens, we cannot necessarily be there to frame up so John's solution was to return them to the distributor marked 'rejected'. Some examples: Ice Age, From Hell, Ali, Bandits...there are others but that's all I can recall off the top of my head. And yes, when he called up for the first time the distributor treated him with total disbelief too - as if he didn't know what he was talking about! Nice to hear that they treat everyone equally...  I think they actually said something like, 'No, I don't think it would be the lab's fault - they have very strict quality control there...' at which point John nearly dropped the phone...  I agree - Ken Burn's 'Jazz' doco is incredible! 
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Bernard Tonks
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 619
From: Cranleigh, Surrey, England
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 02-11-2002 09:34 AM
Brad said, i recieved 4 gosford park trailers this week and all 4 were printed with the frame line off centre, so that when it comes on screen it is very low ( about half a sprocket! ).i am having to rack the image up to compensate.
______________________________________________________________________ We do get this problem in Carlton also Pearl & Dean advertising reels, but they are improving. I also use to complain bitterly about one frame TV cue dots at the beginning of almost every advert which most of us blacked out. For years the 1.85 wide censor certificates in the UK on Buena Vista releases were always low in frame. I got something done about that, but only because I managed to persuade them to run reel 1 of a release print in their preview theatre to prove my point. BTW my copy of Gosford Park trailer is dead centre frame. Technicolor print!
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John Wilson
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From: Sydney, Australia.
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 02-12-2002 02:34 AM
Hi BradTake a search in Film Handler's forum and look at the thread called... Purple Line On Screen?
On page two you'll see some other examples. Atlab are looking into the problem, but until we made noises about it to both them and every distributor whose trailers were affected (almost everyone) they had no idea there even was a problem.
There's also a large amount of applicator bleed from the soundtrack you'll find sneaking into the image area on most of these. The Ritz is an independent in Sydney's Eastern suburbs. 6 screens, Kinoton FP30d's, DTS and SRD in all screens, John White's fabulous Multimation automation system and of course, filmguard. It just don't get any better... Actually, if we were running Raiders Of The Lost Ark maybe... ------------------
"It's not the years honey, it's the mileage". - Indiana Jones.
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