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Eli Blasingame
Film Handler

Posts: 18
From: Loleta, CA, USA
Registered: Nov 2001


 - posted 02-18-2002 10:41 PM      Profile for Eli Blasingame   Email Eli Blasingame   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Why is it when I go home, it all falls apart. I have two handler's that can brake anything, just by walking by it. One leaves marks on new films and the other always has a brain raps. Not like just one here and there ,but all the time. Like in one week, three times. Hell I've only had maybe three in 11 years. And there are more,but I dont have the time to list them. help plz , help me.
I've made mistakes ,but not like this. Eli

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Steve Kraus
Film God

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From: Chicago, IL, USA
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When the entire class fails one usually looks to the teacher.

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Eli Blasingame
Film Handler

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From: Loleta, CA, USA
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 - posted 02-18-2002 11:12 PM      Profile for Eli Blasingame   Email Eli Blasingame   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
yes, this is ture, but I myself don't cut corners and I take pride in giving a good show. Our tech and myself have work on and on with these guys and still. and its just, I feel they they don't care.
I don't know????

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Paul Harnden
Expert Film Handler

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From: Chandler, AZ, USA
Registered: Oct 2001


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Now is it evident that they don't care? I used to be a pretty stressful guy when starting out and called my manager a lot. He layed down these rules:
If I had any questions, ask him while he was around otherwise he would just go home and screen his calls. If it was a dire emergency (projector exploding, alien invasion, nuclear holocaust) then he'd prolly pick it up. But if it was a simple brainwrap or misthread he'd leave it to myself to fix. Sure this sounds wrong if they haven't had the proper training (train them then). Yet if they have and keep on messing up then it's prolly a good idea to look for and train someone else.

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Eli Blasingame
Film Handler

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From: Loleta, CA, USA
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yes, I can kick them out and put them back as popcorn pushers, but that puts me there 24/7, I have hired a new guy and he acts like he can do it ,but he's only two days on the job. and what if he's like the other two?

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Stan Gunn
Expert Film Handler

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From: Clematis, in the hills near Melbourne Australia
Registered: Aug 2000


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Dump the worst, it will send a message to the other, if that fails hire two new staff.

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Eli Blasingame
Film Handler

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I wish, I could. and yes, carbons are cool

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Paul Harnden
Expert Film Handler

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From: Chandler, AZ, USA
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Eli,

Do you work for a large chain such as Regal or Loews? If so check the other area theatres that are within the company and see if a possible transfer of possibly better projectionists can take place. If not, well you're gonna have to come down on the worst as Stan mentioned and make an example.

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James R. Hammonds, Jr
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Houston, TX, USA
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Brain raps, huh?
I'd like to hear M.C. Payout sometime.
Or maybe Grandmaster Feed Control.

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Eli Blasingame
Film Handler

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From: Loleta, CA, USA
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ok , SO I was writing to fast, and do not spell it right.
thx, MC funny guy. opps/ I suck

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Eli Blasingame
Film Handler

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opps, so I was writing to fast and do not spell wrap right
thx, MC funny guy , well I suck

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Brad Miller
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Looks like you were submitting posts a bit too fast tonight too.

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John Pytlak
Film God

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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
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One suggestion would be to develop a "cirriculum" for your projectionists --- provide educational material (e.g., Film-Tech "Tips" articles, Kodak "Cinema Notes", SMPTE Projection Manual) and then TEST them on their knowledge. Likewise, visit the projection room during a normal shift and observe their operating procedures, gently pointing out errors. If they are not corrected, take further action (less desireable shifts, no raise, dismissal). Keep track of major problems (shows lost, prints damaged, customer-reported problems with misframes, bad focus, wrong lens, etc.) and PLOT and POST them. Likewise, PLOT and POST good reports, and reward them.

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Steve Kraus
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Eli lamented:
>I feel they they don't care

Fire or demote them. Priority #1 is that they must care. If they don't then you are wasting your time with them and should find someone who does. You can teach anyone to be a good operator provided they care first. Maybe you can find some who is a film student or plans to become one and can be instilled with the pride of showmanship that leads to a desire to do a good job.

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Frank Angel
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When employees are not doing their jobs well, the easy out is to blame the employee. I never blame the employee. If the job performance is consistently poor, then you have to blame the manager. Either one of two things is happening -- he is hasn't trained, or hasn't motivate or hasn't been firm enough with that employee. And if he has done all those things and the employee still is performing below par, then it is STILL The manager's fault because he hasn't fired that employee. Either way, you have to lay it at the manager's feet.

If, after all the good management points that John has enumerated are implemented, these guys STILL ruin shows and show no signs of an attitude correction, then it's time to document their lack of attention to the job and have them replaced. Sometimes you have to cut your losses and accept the fact that they are just not right for the job. Did they sign up for work as "film handlers" or were they hired as concessionaires or ushers? If so, what makes management think that they automatically qualify or have any desire to work at a job that is totally unrelated to the job they applied for when they first walked into the theatre? Maybe they enjoyed their stint as ticket-taker or whatever. Now they are told they have to do a job that is more stressful, requires more skill and perhaps not at all to their liking....all things management probably hasn't considered.

Maybe this problem is severe enough that you can use it to open management's eyes to the fact that not everyone has the talent or the desire to work projection. Maybe this will make them understand that perhaps they should consider HIRING TRAINED PROJECTIONISTS to run projectors -- people with the aptitude and a desire to actually do that job.

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