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Michael Coate
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1904
From: Los Angeles, California
Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 04-18-2002 03:25 AM
quote: ZOOT SUIT was the one and only to utilize the SENSURROUND PLUS name (on 70mm prints).
Some 35mm engagements also advertised Sensurround Plus (such as the Edwards Cinema in Costa Mesa, CA) quote: This referred to the fact that DBX noise reduction was used for the entire soundtrack
Sensurround Plus also incorporated an in-theater lighting effect.
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Thomas Hauerslev
Master Film Handler
Posts: 451
From: Copenhagen, Denmark
Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 04-18-2002 08:23 AM
Since my last Sensurround posting a year ago, I've recieved a couple of complete Sensurround processors and a manual. Only for substandard movies (35mm), however. If anyone have the 70mm cards lying around, I'd be happy to give the cards a safe retirement in Copenhagen. Wonder what will happen if I actually fire a processor up and connect the processor to the LP soundtrack with the Sensurround sample or perhaps a LD/DVD?The most likely scenario is probably blown speakers, a stunned wife, a nice white jacket with long sleves that can be secured on the back for me and a long visit to the local (projectionist-)asylum. ------------------ Cheers, Thomas www.in70mm.com - The 70mm Newsletter www.dp70.com|www.70mm.dk|www.hauerslev.com|http: //hjem.get2net.dk/in70mm
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Frank Angel
Film God
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From: Brooklyn NY USA
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 04-18-2002 02:46 PM
So it was a sound system AND a theatre cleaning machine!!Problem with those Cerwin-Vega boxes was that they were designed to couple with the walls; they had units that were designed to be placed vertically in the rear corners of the room and the massive throated units that sat in front of the stage with the mouth opening right in the face of the folks in the front seats. As well as smaller units that sat vertically on either side of the stage. These thing had to be against the walls to work so they really couldn't be kept in the theatres if aesthetics were considered. All these bins coupling to the walls and pumping out resonating low end....the SPL was spectacular. I would love to know what they were able to achieve. It was so loud that it actually modulated the sound from the main speakers -- I saw EARTHQUAKE in 4 track mag and once the Sensurround kicked in, it was like the dialogue was filtered through a fan....kind of a sympathetic vibration taking place. It was totally awesome and the day I went, I stayed for every show until the theatre closed. IMHO, the system ONLY worked well for EARTHQUAKE where the synthesizer was external to the soundtrack. Once they tried to adapt it to reproduce part of a non-descrete soundtrack, it didn't work nearly as well. Yah, you got subbass sound, but it really was just trying to reproduce components of the existing mono track -- basically just normal low end sounds. Only they were too loud, as mentioned, the Sensurround reproduction was nonlinear, in other words, just big, poorly designed subwoofers trying to reproduce normal low-end sounds. And the processing had terrible artifacts going on -- lots of false triggering of the low-end system by sound that were just at the edge of the threshold, like vocal "P"s and "B"s which would pop into the Sensurround channel and blast out like cannon explosions. Very annoying. Bad system. But the original design for EARTHQUAKE with 4 track mag -- fabulous. I think with today's technology, you would run EARTHQUAKE and come pretty close to the Sensurround SPL levels with just a really good subbass system, maybe needing to add a few more bins, like in the back corners of the room. And of course you would need that synth box, but today you could create that random rumble sound in a synth generator in about 5 minutes, record it on a CD, set it to repeat play in a CD player and let the Sensurround tones trigger the audio from the CD player. I was lucky enough to get one of the original EARTHQUAKE soundtrack LPs; cut 1 opens with a recording of the actual rumble noise from the synthesizer. They removed that from subsequent pressings because it cause lots of damage when people turned it up too high. If you look closely at the grooves, they are spaced very far apart -- space needed so the cutting lathe wouldn't cut into the walls of the adjacent groove walls. Played on a good system, the effect is quite impressive. A local TV station here in NY had the broadcast premiere of the film and they made a big promotional deal about broadcasting it with Sensurround. They actually mixed the rumble synth sounds in with the audio. I recorded it on 3/4 in tape (Beta and VHS hadn't been invented yet) and it was very effective -- again, only if you had a good playhback system. I can't imagine what kind of havoc this created for the transmitter engineers, trying to keep overall modulation within limits and yet still getting dialogue to read.
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