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Topic: Xenon: Leave It On...Or Turn It Off?
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Manny Knowles
"What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???"
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From: Bloomington, IN, USA
Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 04-27-2002 06:38 PM
I know that some projector systems are designed to keep the Xenon "warm" to save them from the "perils" of ignition.But leaving them on full-bore doesn't seem like it would be the greatest idea in EVERY case. For those who haven't read the first few posts...over in the "Misuse" thread... I complained that a new projectionist had left a Xenon burning without rolling film. (Forget the fact that she was totally unaware that she had ignited the lamp by accident.) Jan added that she left hers burning all the time...but she also added that she's running 10 shows a day. I'm talking about a theatre that has three shows a day...and we were about 4 hours away from showtime when I noticed the lamp burning. How does one decide when to leave xenons burning and when to extinguish them between shows? ------------------ And, hey! Let's be careful out there. ~Manny.
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Paul G. Thompson
The Weenie Man
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From: Mount Vernon WA USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 04-27-2002 07:00 PM
This has been discussed at length in another tread. It has its pro's and con's. Personally, I don't leave them on between shows. Runs the power bills up too high. That's the "Con". I discovered there was no real savings in the long run. It almost balances out. There is also a possibility that if you leave them on and the operator forgets that the movie is over and does not close the hand douser, the flimsy shutter in some of today's machines could become warped or burned. I don't think anyone wants to blast a flimsy shutter with a 2.5kw or higher lamp, or any lamp for that matter.....
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Michael Rourke
Expert Film Handler
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From: San Luis Obispo, Central Coast of CA
Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 04-27-2002 08:42 PM
Whatever money was saved on bulbs would go right into the A/C bill, trying to cool a room with 7 xenons running for 16 hours. I would think you would be risking heat damage to the print if the bulbs were left on continually, even with the little dowser plate or lamphouse shield blocking the light/heat wouldn't there be the matter of heat via conduction? I have trap cooled 3K's and the traps still get pretty hot while running because my ventilation is getting steadily worse. In fact, when the freon went out on the booth A/C we had a little heat damage to a print. If you were to leave bulbs on all the time then you'd better have really good ventilation, trap coolers, and keep the booth really cold. John made a good point, what if your dowser cue doesn't work and the lens gets wrecked because your operator was on the phone or dropping the kids off at the pool?
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Manny Knowles
"What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???"
Posts: 4247
From: Bloomington, IN, USA
Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 04-28-2002 11:59 AM
Jan - I wondered how you managed to have so many shows...large format never occurred to me.I agree with you...I don't think I've ever seen a household bulb expire while it's already turned on. Always when it's just turned on. So, I see your point. But I think I'm going to go with shutting them down between shows...longer intermissions here. BTW, I leave my computers on 24-7 too. I reboot once in a while out of superstition, though. ...and, yes, I have them all on UPS battery backups that offer about 10mins of power. ------------------ And, hey! Let's be careful out there. ~Manny.
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Will Kutler
Phenomenal Film Handler
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From: Tucson, AZ, USA
Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 04-29-2002 08:14 PM
To leave it on, or leave it off....that is the question, ha ha!I do think that it depends on your particular booth and equipment. In a change-over booth, leave em on, but let them shut off after a show with a multi-plex/platter operation. Here are some scenarios you may cover: Think of your lense probles should your change over fail! Also, the bulb heat can cause change-over blades to warp such as the Christie. But Christie has attempted to solve this problem. I have also seen some small independant houses where the lamphouses were in delipated condition and the lamp house dousers did not do much good! I have also seen some independant houses running platters without any kind of changeover or failsafe assembly! If you do opt to keep lamps lit, is your "projection" staff intelligent enough to properly look after them? I guess that the bottom line is that bulb wear can be reduced by keeping them lit for at least 1/2 hr before shut down...that frequent striking will lead to excessive wear, and this is covered in many bulb and lamphouse manuals! But keeping them lit for extra time will also wear them down. I guess it is just common sense for your particular theater...
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