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Topic: What Projectors do you Like?
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Joe Redifer
You need a beating today
Posts: 12859
From: Denver, Colorado
Registered: May 99
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posted 08-17-2002 01:06 PM
I like: -Century JJ and SA -Christie P35GPS (after recent Christie impovements)I have not had the fortune to work with but I can pretty much guarantee I'd like: -Kinoton (current series) I can somewhat tolerate but they have serious design flaws: -Simplex (current models; bad sound drum design with the rubber PTR-thingy, it leaks oil which is always mega-lame, and it is a bit cramped and can be a pain to work on) -Cinemeccanica (easy to thread and great in concept, but lousy registration) I do not like: -Brenkert (Sue me. I just don't like 'em. If you want to emulate the Brenkert experience, open up a can of oil and dump it onto the floor. They are also cramped and I do not like the soundhead design) -Norelco (Sue me again. I've only threaded one of these two or three times, but it is a pain in the ass. Also there is NO REASON for them to be so huge!) I have not worked with but know I would hate: -Ballantyne -Christie's funky new PG35GPS that has not been released
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Gordon McLeod
Film God
Posts: 9532
From: Toronto Ontario Canada
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 08-17-2002 01:33 PM
One more time with feeling since I am sure this is a often repeated thread I worked with and like Westrex 5000 Norelco AA2 Norelco DP75 FP20-** Ernamann 12 and 15 Ernamann 8B Motiograph AAA Ballantyne Pro35 Most of the cinemecanica I Don Not like Brenkert (s) Leak oil a bitch to repair Motiograph K's Wassman FPSuper7's GK21's Bauers Christie's Super Simplex Projectors I think I would like but haven't used Westrex7000 Aga Baltic Projectors I haven't used but know I would hate BTH Supra's MegasSystems
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Aaron Sisemore
Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day!
Posts: 3061
From: Rockwall TX USA
Registered: Sep 1999
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posted 08-17-2002 02:23 PM
Lumping 35 and 35/70 machines as one category:Machines I have worked with and like Century SA/MSA/DA Century H/HH STRAIGHT GATE Simplex XL/1015/1050 with and without turrets Simplex E-7 Brenkert BX-60 Brenkert BX-80 Motiograph AAA Machines I have seen in operation but never used that I would like: Norelco AAII/DP70 Norelco/Kinoton DP75 Century JJ Any of the newer Kinoton machines Ernemann CFS Dreamcatcher prototype version IMAX MegaSystems 15/70 Westar Machines I have seen/seen operating but I probably wouldn't like: Any model Christie CFS Dreamcatcher production version Machines I have worked with that I cannot stand: Cinecita SA Monee MSP Cinemeccanica Victoria 8 Super Simplex Century H/HH CURVED GATE Norelco FP20 The jury is still out: Ballantyne Pro-35 Tokiwa TSR -Aaron
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Ian Price
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1714
From: Denver, CO
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 08-17-2002 02:42 PM
Projectors I have worked with and like: Strong/Simplex XL and newer (Familiarity breeds complacency.) Christie P35G Ballantyne Pro35/70 (As a 70mm machine only!)Projectors I would have loved 50 years ago: Brenkerts BX60 (Their time has passed) Projectors I can live with but don't love: Century (The entire group)(They work very well) Projectors that belong in a museum: Norelco AAII (I mean they should be running in a museum) Projectors that I covet: Kinoton FP60D Bastard Projector: Strong/Simplex 35/70 (They couldn't even get the gate to soundhead distance correct!) The Projector that I hate: Ballantyne Pro35/70 (In 35mm configuration)
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Brad Miller
Administrator
Posts: 17775
From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99
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posted 08-18-2002 01:20 AM
I like... *Century JJ and SA (Hands down the best projector design of all I have worked with) *Cinemecannica V5 (Is it possible for these machines to be any easier on the film? I think not.) *Christie gearless (after improvements)Projectors I have not worked with yet, but have a strong feeling I would fall in love with... *Kinoton's current line Projectors I have not worked with enough to make a decision on... *Cinemecannica V8 *Cinemecannica V10 Projectors I have not worked with, but am fairly positive I will not like... *Brenkert *Ernemann Projectors I do not like... *Simplex (all models - no exceptions until they fix the soundhead design) *Ballantyne PRO 35 *Cinecita *Monee *Norelco AA2/DP70 (like Joe said "sue me"! I used to have one of these beasts in my screening room and dearly hated the damn thing. I could write an essay on all the stupid things about this machine. The only part I liked about it was how it handled 70mm film. Everything else is a joke. I have no idea why people love this machine so much.) *...and finally, any projector not still in production. That right there really does say something. If the design was so wonderful, they would still be in production today.
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Paul G. Thompson
The Weenie Man
Posts: 4718
From: Mount Vernon WA USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 08-18-2002 02:11 AM
Someone once mentioned to me a long time ago the reason why Brenkert went out of production was because they were built TOO GOOD! Brenkert was not "part happy" like some other manufacturers. When everyone who could afford a Brenkert got theirs, Brenkert could not sell any parts because they never wore out. It is a machine that stayed happy as long as you kept oil in it. They were, for many years, a projector of choice in 3rd and 4th run houses. You could run just about anything through that machine from stick pins to staples, and it would not jump out of frame. If you guys had some factory spec brand new Brenkerts, you would love them. True, they can be a bitch to work on, but that hardly ever happened until the machine finally reached the age of 40 years or so. Most of those problems were because of snagged shutters due to arc-lamp heat warping, or someone ran the damned thing out of oil. I have to say I had 4 Brenkert BX-60's at the old Circus Drive-in in Anacortes. None of them leaked oil because we had orginal Brenkert Gaskets instead of that cheap shit made today. At the Station Theater at NAS Whidbey, we had 2 BX-80's before the USN converted to 16mm. The left machine never leaked oil, but the right one did because of a screwed up pump cover gasket.
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Scott Norwood
Film God
Posts: 8146
From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas)
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 08-18-2002 09:24 AM
I have worked with and like:Century C/SA/JJ Simplex X-L/PR-1014 I have worked with and have mixed feelings about: Cinemeccanica V5 I have not worked with but think I would like: Kinoton (current models) I have not worked with but think I would not like: Christie gearless I have not worked with but would like to someday: Norelco AA-II
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Bernard Tonks
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 619
From: Cranleigh, Surrey, England
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 08-18-2002 09:53 AM
I Like:Westar 2001s. They were running in my cinema for 32 years without a single mechanical failure. They were as good as new when I sold them with reconditioned intermittent assemblies. The very best Westar 2001 specials I worked with was in London, being the water cooled gates and rear double shutters model. I also liked: The Philips DP70, for the experience of running 70mm. Philips (Kineton) FP 20s. I would like to work on any good new projector, including the newer Christie, but there are no Christie installations in the UK I believe.
I have enjoyed working on most projectors during my other freelance days, with the exception of certain features e.g. aperture plate changing method etc. BTH model KB, I thought was their best. BTH Mk 1 & 2 Supa’s. Kalee 7, 20, 21, 37s. RCA. Ross GC3. Super Simplex.
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