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Topic: No more holes every 5 perfs?
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John Pytlak
Film God
Posts: 9987
From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 09-08-2002 06:45 AM
Steve: Does anyone else still punch the hole? Or even still supply 70mm print film as a catalog item?  SMPTE 119 says the hole was "used for positioning audio records on release prints" for magnetic sound. You can SEE a DTS track, and you can SEE the picture, so the holes are not the only guide to threading a projector correctly. Labs still have the option of edgeprinting the EASTMAN 65mm KEYKODE numbers from the printing negative, which has latent image marks every 5 perfs:
EASTMAN 65mm KEYKODE ------------------
John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7525A
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: +1 585 477 5325 Cell: +1 585 781 4036 Fax: +1 585 722 7243
e-mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com
Web site: http://www.kodak.com/go/motion
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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!
Posts: 12814
From: Annapolis, MD
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 09-08-2002 02:39 PM
I dunno if anyone else does comply with the standard or not. The Frame line identifier (the little round hole) was a multi-use item. It was on the inboard side and on the frame line.The fact is, not having the hole puts the stock out of SMPTE compliance. Steve ------------------
"Old projectionists never die, they just changeover!"
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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!
Posts: 12814
From: Annapolis, MD
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 09-08-2002 05:46 PM
Sad to say Steve...that would be predictable (SMPTE not in compliance with SMPTE).As to films actually correct with the frame-line identifier...it really depended on the lab. Deluxe in the states was horrible...they bi-directionally printed so at least half of the reels had the hole on the wrong side. Technicolor-London seemed VERY good about adhearing to it. I think the last film of their's I played was THE LAST EMPEROR and it, on all of its many reels, adheared to the identifier to the inoboard side and right on the frame line. If you have any of the old 70-APAL film, it was always correct too. Steve ------------------
"Old projectionists never die, they just changeover!"
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