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Topic: Are there many theatres that can still show dual projection 3D?
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Claude S. Ayakawa
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From: Waipahu, Hawaii, USA
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 09-08-2002 06:04 PM
2004 will mark the 50th anniversary of Natural Vision 3-D. It was 1954 when an independent producer, Arch Oboler released "BWANA DEVIL", the first feature in that process starring Robert Stack and it was an instant hit.. The film itself was terrible but the 3D effects was wonderful. Because the process used two seperate 35mm projectors, the picture was very bright despite having to wear polaroid glasses to view the film. For those of you who have never seen the 3D films of the fifties, the effect is almost the same as IMAX 3-D. Since "BWANA DEVIL", I had made an effort to see as many films as I could in the process including "HOUSE OF WAX", "IT CAME FROM OUTER SPACE", "ARENA", "THRE CREATURE FROM THE BLACK LAGOON", FORT TI", "INFERNO", "THOSE REDHEADS FROM SEATTLE" and "THE MAZE". Beside many others I saw in 3D, there were others I had to watch in a regular version such as "DIAL M FOR MURDER, "HONDO" and "KISS ME KATE" because the 3D process was no longer popular. When I used to read the Los Angeles Times on a regular basis, I have noticed that there were one or two revival theatres that were showing newly struck 3D prints there. Beside these theatres in LA, are there still others in other parts of the country and the world that are still showing Natural Visian (Dual Projector) 3D? I am not referring to the single projection system which in my opinion sucks big time. -Claude
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Steve Guttag
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From: Annapolis, MD
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 09-08-2002 08:58 PM
There are probably more than you would expect that can run 2-strip 3-D films. It isn't that hard to do. Special venue still uses the 2-strip method. In the DC area, the AFI runs a 3-D festival about once a year in 2-strip. Steve ------------------
"Old projectionists never die, they just changeover!"
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Stephen Furley
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From: Coulsdon, Croydon, England
Registered: May 2002
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posted 09-09-2002 02:23 AM
NFT2 in London can still do it, and does from time to time, which is appropriate, as the NFT developed out of the Telekinema at the Festival of Britain where modern 3D, i.e. polarised picture and stereophonic sound really started in 1951.NFT3, previously the MOMI (Museum of the Moving Image) cinema could, but the DP-70s were replaced by Vic 8s at about the time the museum closed, and I don't know if it is now set up for 3D. NFT1 cannot do it, unsuitable screen, and wrong shape auditorium. I don't know if any other cinemas in London are still equipped, but I haven't heard of any others doing it for many years now.
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Ken McFall
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From: Haringey, London.
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 09-09-2002 09:44 AM
I've still got a set of the original port glass polarising filters for two projector 3D.... still in their original envelope un-used.The 'Up and Over' single projector system was ok but you had to make sure your lamp house was de focused to get as even a light spread as possible. I've seen a couple of dire shows as a result where one image was very dull at the top and the other was very dull at the bottom.... masking tape everywhere. It was mostly due to the fact that the projectionist was expected to run single manning, set up the 3D and do his normal duties as well. No wonder the end result was often a disaster...... and who gets the blame.. answers please on a post card to.... BTW I would suggest Leo that you are wrong when you say you replaced missing / damaged frames with CLEAR spacing. That would result in a very disturbing white flash in one eye, and ruin the moment by drawing attention to the fact that there was damage etc. A black frame would not be as distracting or uncomfortable and not ruin the moment.
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Bernard Tonks
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From: Cranleigh, Surrey, England
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 09-09-2002 02:14 PM
I have a fond memory of Natural Vision dual projector 3D, as a young 3rd projectionist nearly 50 years ago, in a 2,500 seater cine-variety theatre. With a throw of 152 feet onto a large academy ratio screen the quality of the 3D image was outstanding! Interlock was by a simple coupling bar between the two projectors. The film was sent on four 5,000’ spools for left and right eye, and there would be of course an Intermission to change the reels. As mentioned before in another thread, I can name at least three UK cinemas that had the luxury of four projectors to enable changeovers. One of them was the West End of London Warner Theatre, which also had separate follower soundheads interlocked for THE HOUSE OF WAX in stereo sound as well! Image that. One amusing incident I remember was when the manager came upto the projection box wondering why the picture was flat and not 3D. We had to stop and go back to the beginning again, after it was realised that a fresh batch of 3D glasses had been folded the wrong way. The manager then had to go on stage and give instructions to turn the glasses the right way around! Gordon wrote, quote:
Actually the single film 3d can be very good if the time and care is taken to set it up properly
I agree, I saw THE BUBBLE in perfect 3D projected from a Philips FP20 with an excellent xenon light at the small Classic Cinema, Piccadilly Circus. It can be done.
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