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Ron Fleming
Film Handler

Posts: 26
From: Eastlake, OH, USA
Registered: Sep 2001


 - posted 10-16-2002 08:48 AM      Profile for Ron Fleming   Email Ron Fleming   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I'm not a certified technician but would like to run regular test's on the screen in between our regular scheduled service calls. Is there test film that I could get for this?

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Ray Derrick
Master Film Handler

Posts: 310
From: Sydney, Australia
Registered: Sep 2001


 - posted 10-16-2002 08:57 AM      Profile for Ray Derrick   Email Ray Derrick   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
RP40 (SMPTE 35PA) for the picture. Your best bet for sound would probably be the Dolby jiffy film since most of the sound alignment films are of little use without test instruments. How deep is your wallet?

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Joe Beres
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Minneapolis, MN, USA
Registered: Nov 2000


 - posted 10-16-2002 09:10 AM      Profile for Joe Beres   Email Joe Beres   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
What exactly would you like to test? image steadiness, focus, sound?

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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!

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From: Annapolis, MD
Registered: Dec 1999


 - posted 10-20-2002 09:00 PM      Profile for Steve Guttag   Email Steve Guttag   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I would actually recommend the Schneider test film for image at the moment...it is FAR steadier than 35-PA

Steve

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John Pytlak
Film God

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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000


 - posted 10-21-2002 12:30 PM      Profile for John Pytlak   Author's Homepage   Email John Pytlak   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
AFAIK, Arriflex will be making the Schneider/Kinoton/Optronik projector test film, as well as others:
here

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John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7525A
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: +1 585 477 5325 Cell: +1 585 781 4036 Fax: +1 585 722 7243
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Shaun Flichel
Film Handler

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From: Regina, Sask., Canada
Registered: Sep 2002


 - posted 10-21-2002 05:17 PM      Profile for Shaun Flichel   Email Shaun Flichel   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Even a cut up trailer could work for you, of course a still part, like right at the end, dont know what its called, but where the full screen credits come up listing actors/actresses, producer, you should know what i mean, this will show you focus and steadiness. If you want to check for ghosting, a simple Coming Soon still spliced into a loop works well, just frame it to the top and bottom edges of the screen.

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Gordon McLeod
Film God

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From: Toronto Ontario Canada
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 - posted 10-21-2002 05:31 PM      Profile for Gordon McLeod   Email Gordon McLeod   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Because trailors and snipes are high speed printed they are not very valid for testing pureposes

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Michael Schaffer
"Where is the
Boardwalk Hotel?"

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From: Boston, MA
Registered: Apr 2002


 - posted 10-21-2002 05:47 PM      Profile for Michael Schaffer   Author's Homepage   Email Michael Schaffer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
What equipment do you have?

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John Pytlak
Film God

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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
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 - posted 10-21-2002 09:04 PM      Profile for John Pytlak   Author's Homepage   Email John Pytlak   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
A print made on a continuous contact printer can be very steady, if it is "Film Done Right". But the original must be "short pitch" (BH-1866 perforations) and the print film must be "long pitch" (KS-1870 or DH-1870 perforations), and the printer guide rollers and tensions set to specification. When a print is unsteady, it's likely some stage was printed short pitch to short pitch, or the printer was misadjusted. I have seen very steady prints from the highest speed printers, and unsteady prints from very slow printers, so speed is not the key factor.

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John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7525A
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: +1 585 477 5325 Cell: +1 585 781 4036 Fax: +1 585 722 7243
e-mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com
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Shaun Flichel
Film Handler

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From: Regina, Sask., Canada
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Trailers are acceptable for quick testing, not aligning, as I did mention, this MUST be a still section like credits, if that loop is perfectly focused accross the screen, then there no problem. Except not too many go to the outter limits of the screen. If you suspect a focus problem, the chances of a lab error ending up with perfect focus on your screen is highly unlikely. And as far as travel ghosts go, all your looking for is white ghosting into black, a coming soon clip (or date) from the end of a trailer is a good test for this. Be sure to frame the loop throughout the whole screen.

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