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Author Topic: What's the best way to do SR on an Ultra Stereo JS 200? Mark J. Marshall Film God Posts: 3188 From: New Castle, DE, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 10-28-2002 03:48 PM                    Anyone have any experience with the CopyCat 280 cards, or the U*S JXR 10 cards? Any personal preferences on which is better? Thanks. Mark  |  IP: Logged Clint Koch Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1435 From: San Luis Obispo, CA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 10-28-2002 03:56 PM                     USL, Inc. has an SR module that fits into the JS-series. Not sure about your Manley Popper.  |  IP: Logged Darryl Spicer Film God Posts: 3250 From: Lexington, KY, USA Registered: Dec 2000 posted 10-28-2002 06:22 PM                    I don't recomend it on the Ultra Stereo. I discontinued using them at our theater because it actually made the sound less intelligable. It sounded muffled. If you use them they just fit in the slot next to the matrix card. To be honest if you are going to use sr Use a dolby system to produce it. That's just my opinion.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 10-28-2002 06:42 PM                     Are you sure your A-chains were properly aligned? I've gotten pretty good SR sound out of USL processors.  |  IP: Logged Mark J. Marshall Film God Posts: 3188 From: New Castle, DE, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 10-28-2002 07:38 PM                    Clint, Is the JXR 10 the one you're talking about? Brad, is that what you use in yours? If they sound noticeably better than playing these SR prints through the "A" side of the Ultra Stereos, then I may have a case. Thanks. Mark  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 10-28-2002 07:40 PM                     I haven't taken the USL card numbers to memory yet, but yes they just plug in beside the matrix card. In any event, yes it made a huge difference in the sound quality. The sound won't be all tinty and compressed sounding like it is when you play SR through A noise reduction.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 10-28-2002 10:01 PM                     Darryl, If you're having muffled sound when using the USL SR card then either you have a system problem or a bad card. You're the forst complaint I've heard about towards muffled sound. Just about everyone I know of likes the USL SR noise reduction card. Its a really close approximation of real SR. The only better SR noise reduction is Panastereo's, and then Dolby's in that order. Mark  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 10-29-2002 07:18 AM                     The least painful solution is the Ultra-Stereo SR card...it is about as brain-dead an installation as you could get. Now Panastereo has an outboard SR system you could also use. Steve ------------------ "Old projectionists never die, they just changeover!"  |  IP: Logged Clint Koch Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1435 From: San Luis Obispo, CA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 10-29-2002 10:52 AM                     The JXR-10 is the correct module.  |  IP: Logged Darryl Spicer Film God Posts: 3250 From: Lexington, KY, USA Registered: Dec 2000 posted 10-29-2002 06:12 PM                    What I mean by muffled sound is this. When someone talks using the Dolby A noise reduction there sylables are legably heard. Also, when I listen to certain scenes that contain things like streams running in the background or wind I can hear with Dolby A NR. But these same sound are reduced when using the SR noise reduction cards. Now bare in mind that these noise reduction cards are 7 years old and there may have been some changes to the Ultra Stereo SR cards that could have improved the sound. We only have five of them here and I have moved them around to different units with the same results. All of our A chains are set up correctly too.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 10-29-2002 10:49 PM                     Darryl, Do you have reverse scanners in these machines? If not what slit lens do you have? Standard, or narrow Sounds to me like you are hearing the track slightly compressed and possibly slightly emphasised when in A NR mode. LIstening this way is not correct. Also, what stage speakers are there, and what type of analyzer was used to set em up. Mark @ CLACO  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 10-29-2002 11:05 PM                     typicaly wind and rain sounds should be reduced with proper SR playback the typical sympton of sr playing in a mode is exagerated wind and rain sounds  |  IP: Logged Darryl Spicer Film God Posts: 3250 From: Lexington, KY, USA Registered: Dec 2000 posted 10-29-2002 11:22 PM                    What I need to do is one day just put the processor in sr mode and go in and watch a reel or two of a movie so I can get a better judgment of what I am hearing. Having listend to soundtracks played back in A noise reduction for so long I may not be judging the process on an accurate basis. Everything may be fine because it is processing it the way it should. We do not use reverse scan readers at this theater. I wish we did in a way because I have heard reverse scan readers in action and they do sound good. We have 6 DTS units with the possability of getting 4 more next year. (Keeping fingers crossed) As far as anylyzer I can not remember the brand. The speakers are JBL's.  |  IP: Logged

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