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Topic: Sony dropping Technicolor as of 1/7/2003
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Bernie Anderson Jr
Master Film Handler
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From: Woodbridge, New Jersey
Registered: Apr 2000
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posted 12-21-2002 10:10 AM
Dustin said:
>However, when we got our Gangs of New York prints in this >week NONE of the reels had reel bands and unlike ETS the >leaders were not secured adequatly with tape. The leaders >were a tangled mess. I certainly hope TES isn't dropping reel >bands, its one of the things they had over ETS.
You have to remember too, that if they are in a certain can, that doesn't mean that either TES or ETS actually delivered it. Some times you get these fly-by-night couriers that bicycle prints between two theatres with out any exchange getting invovled. I would bet if you looked at the shipping invoice it came from another theatre directly like an AMC or a Loews. I had a print of Greek Wedding starting at my theatre in it's 6 month. Why? I don't know. But my print was shipped from Loews Newport Center Mall (hello booth ushers) in Hoboken. It didn't have any leaders attached to the print at all. I was lucky that they were in the can. If it wasn't for that, I would have been guessing. As it was, the print was supposed to be there by midnight. Then they said, 10AM, then 12PM. Well. It showed up around 3PM with one show already cancelled. And this was all because they didn't take it apart at the first theatre. My prints are in the cans the night they leave. At the door for pick up. I will not do to "you" what has been done to me.
As far as reel bands...I remember a time when all the info was put on the reel band, not a sticker that is taped over the splice. If they're gonna do that instead of putting the sticker on the band, not to screw up the tie, I rather them not put on any reel bands. Half the time they don't tie the damn thing anyway.
I've delt with TES for about 10 years now. I can't wait to see them go and I'm glad someone like Sony is not putting up with their crap anymore. MGM I hear wants out too but TES made such a great deal that they had no choice. After all, this was Disney's baby.
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Scott Norwood
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From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas)
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 12-21-2002 10:34 AM
Reel bands are a good idea, but they need to be _good_ reel bands, not TES's cheesy version. The cardboard is too easy to tear, and I usually end up having at least one string break for every print because the ID stickers are usually placed directly over the string catch. If they put the sticker over the section of the band where the title/number of reels/etc. information should be written (before putting the band on the reel), that would work fine.
I do use the reel bands (and I fill in the "reel number" circle since TES never does), but I'd really like to see TES get better bands and ETS start using them. I really have a hard time believing that a dollar or two for reel bands is too much to spend to protect a $1-2k print.
ETS and TES both have their good and bad points. ETS has better reels (though the quality seems to be going downhill), but TES has 24-hour service for replacement reels, etc. TES charges less for shipping, too, but they won't let nearby theatres transport the prints themselves. ETS (well, actually, their subcontractors like "Film Transport" in MA and "Highway Films" in the DC area) sometimes delivers prints on Wednesday (especially to the larger multiplexes), which I suppose is an advantage for some people. I usually work at a 6-plex on Thursday nights, and usually only have 1-2 makeups and 1-2 breakdowns, so Thursday evening delivery isn't an issue. My prints area always in the lobby and ready for pickup on Thursday nights, so Friday morning pickups are fine. I realize that those who work in 30-plexes can't always do this, but it's a nonissue for me.
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James R. Hammonds, Jr
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From: Houston, TX, USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 12-21-2002 02:20 PM
I really dont see what Miramax has to do with anything in this case Charles. That could have happened with an MGM or Lions Gate, or Universal print for all that matters. You must have some personal beef with Miramax since you like to flame them every chance you get. Get over it already.
Also does ETS make their own reels or do they get them from somewere else? I know Technicolor has reels that say "Technicolor" on them, but the reels with ETS prints usually have Warner Bros, Paramount, or 2oth Century Fox on them. Either that or they are some generic reel, and from time to time, I have even seen the crappy black Technicolor snap-together reel.
I once got a print that was shipped in a cardboard box on cores. I called ETS around the time we were supposed to lose it to find out if they were ever going to send reels to break them down on, and I was told they dont handle that and I would have to get them from the distributor if I wanted them.
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