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Topic: Columbia theme SDDS-only?
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Claude S. Ayakawa
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posted 01-02-2003 03:34 PM
Charles,
The lack of sound during the opening of "XXX" and the other film you mentioned would have been the same even in a SDDS equipped theatre because that is the way the sound was mixed. I saw "MAID IN MANHATTAN" in a SRD theatre (Kapolei #1) and the Columbia logo was accompanied by the studio fanfare. The DVD of "XXX" also did not have any sound for the Columbia logo nor the company (s) that produced the film. By the Way, "MINORITY REPORT" also opened without the "DREAMWORKS and 20th Century Fox fanfares at theatres and on the DVD.
During the dawn of the digital sound era, Columbia and Universal released a few movies in SRD including "DRACULA", "DRAGON-The Bruce Lee Story" and "FM". With the release of "" and JURASSIC PARK", the two studios only used their own digital sound process. Universal had stakes in DTS and settled on that system and Columbia (Sony) developed and used SDDS. After a few years, there were a couple of Columbia films that featured SDDS and DTS such as "THE AMERICAN PRESIDENT" and "CITY SLICKERS-2". On rare ocassions, Columbia also used SRD. One fiilm that comes to mind is "AIR FORCE ONE". The film was released with all three sountracks. Universal did not use any other digital sound process other than DTS until they released "PRIMARY COLORS" in 1998 with all three digital soundtracks. Among the major studios, only Fox and Paramont release most of their films without a SDDS soundtrack, today.
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Bobby Henderson
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posted 01-02-2003 06:38 PM
I cannot remember for sure whether the music fanfares for DreamworksSKG and 20th Century Fox were on the front of theatrical prints of "Minority Report" (the sound system at the AMC theater where I watched it was not all that great). But I do know the music fanfare is definitely on the DVD for both company logos.
Before June of 1993, when the "digital sound wars" officially began, the frequency of release for Dolby Digital encoded films was really pretty low. I would say DD title release frequency from June of 1992 to June of 1993 was very comparable to so-so years in the 1980's for 70mm blowup titles. This is the Dolby Digital release list for that one year period, right up to one week before "Jurassic Park" brought DTS into the fray:
BATMAN RETURNS Warner Bros., 6/19/92, Dolby SR•D HONEY I BLEW UP THE KID Touchtone, 7/17/92, Dolby SR•D THE MIGHTY DUCKS Disney, 10/2/92, Dolby SR•D UNDER SIEGE Warner Bros., 10/9/92, Dolby SR•D ALADDIN Disney, 11/11/92, Dolby SR•D Bram Stoker's DRACULA Columbia, 11/13/92, Dolby SR•D MALCOLM X Warner Bros., 11/18/92, Dolby SR•D THE BODYGUARD Warner Bros., 11/25/92, Dolby SR•D PURE COUNTRY Warner Bros., 10/23/92 SR•D TOYS Fox, 12/18/92, SR•D ALIVE Touchtone, 1/1/93, SR•D MATINEE Universal, 1/29/93, SR•D SOMMERSBY Warner Bros., 2/5/93, SR•D A FAR OFF PLACE Disney, 3/5/93, SR•D BOUND BY HONOR Hollywood, 4/30/93, SR•D DRAGON Universal, 5/7/93, SR•D POSSE Gramercy, 5/14/93, SR•D SUPER MARIO BROTHERS Hollywood, 5/28/93, SR•D GUILTY AS SIN Hollywood, 6/4/93, SR•D WHAT'S LOVE GOT TO DO WITH IT Touchtone, 6/9/93, SR•D
Other useless bits of gear-head release trivia (that Bob must get rid of or what remains of his brain will rot):
In the fall of 1993, "Demolition Man" was supposed to be the first dual format Dolby Digital/DTS release, but plans for that got pulled. Warner Bros. did, however, make the first DD/DTS release (in limited form) with Oliver Stone's "Heaven and Earth." Fox was the first company to issue a large inventory of Dolby Digital/DTS prints with "Speed" in 1994. One year later, Fox was the first studio to do triple format release with "Die Hard With a Vengeance" (although the SDDS/SR prints were separate from the SR/SRD/DTS prints).
Columbia messed around with DTS in 1994, using it on the releases of "City Slickers II" and "Little Big League". When Sony couldn't get SDDS into general production in 1993, they struck 70mm prints for certain markets. In 1994, they used DTS a couple times during that summer. SDDS installations began in August of 1994, not long after AMC's announcement they would equip all their screens with the format.
The would-be Paul Hogan come-back film, "Lightning Jack" (with Oscar winner, Cuba Gooding Jr. behaving as goofy as anyone ever has in movie history) was the first release to feature DD soundtracking on all release prints.
Warner Bros. is the only major studio to have used Dolby Digital on all of its films featuring digital sound. All the others have used CDS, or done things like DTS-only, SDDS-only or even the rare DTS/SDDS thing seen on films like "Men in Black" and "Jerry Maguire." There may be a couple indie film companies that can claim they've used Dolby Digital on all of their digital sound releases, but I cannot name them.
"Interview With the Vampire" was the first film to do the SRD/SDDS combination. Warner Bros. had been releasing a string of films in dual DD/DTS form. But they decided at the last minute to go with SDDS on "Interview". Some newspapers had ad goofs showing the DTS logo on stack ad artwork. Warner Bros. would continue doing SRD/SDDS releases until "Twister" debuted in 1996. From that point, Warners had been doing quad format releases ever since (with exceptions here and there like the DD-only "The Art of War").
Disney and New Line were among the last major studios to release quad format films. Disney's films were often DD-only when many others were using some combination of DD/DTS or DD/SDDS. Their first dual format release was the Stallone bomb "Judge Dredd" (DD/SDDS). "Con Air" was the first Buena Vista film to support DTS by virtue of quad format. New Line didn't do any quad format films until early 1998 with the release of "Dark City" ("Wag the Dog" had DTS time code, but no discs).
Come to think of it, "Air Force One" was indeed the first Sony Pictures Release to do quad format.
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Michael Coate
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posted 01-04-2003 09:52 PM
Claude wrote: quote: During the dawn of the digital sound era, Columbia and Universal released a few movies in SRD including "DRACULA", "DRAGON-The Bruce Lee Story" and "FM".
FM??? Claude, FM was released in 1978!!! Are you thinking of Matinee, released January 1993, fives months prior to Jurassic Park, or was there a re-release of FM I'm unaware of?
quote: After a few years, there were a couple of Columbia films that featured SDDS and DTS such as "THE AMERICAN PRESIDENT" and "CITY SLICKERS-2".
My understanding is that the inclusion of DTS was related to those films being produced by Castle Rock.
quote: Universal did not use any other digital sound process other than DTS until they released "PRIMARY COLORS" in 1998 with all three digital soundtracks.
According to my records, Primary Colors was released in March 1998. Kissing A Fool and Blues Brothers 2000 were both released by Universal in February and featured all three digital sound formats.
quote: I did not know "SPEED" was released to theatres in DTS in addition to SRD. I thought the movie was only available in SRD.
I was a projectionist in 1994 and handled a print of Speed. I can confirm the print we ran had both DTS and Dolby Digital (we didn't receive any DTS discs, though). I can recall acknowledging to myself during the print build-up that it was the first print handled that included more than one digital sound format.
Ron Lacheur wrote: quote: I remember watching Starship Troopers in DTS but the ending credits didn't list DTS. It was DD and SDDS.
Ron, I just checked the DVD, and DTS and SDDS logos (and Dolby) are present in the end titles of the movie.
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