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Howard Johnson
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From: Felpham , West Sussex, UK
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 - posted 01-08-2003 02:13 PM      Profile for Howard Johnson   Email Howard Johnson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Can anyone tell me where the best place for an intermission would be for this print as we are showing it on friday and the print probably won't arrive till then. Also how many minutes in to this end of reel? Thanks

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Joe Redifer
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 - posted 01-08-2003 03:57 PM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I put my intermission right at the end after the credits finish, before I thread up and start the next show of this movie. [Big Grin]

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Howard Johnson
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 - posted 01-08-2003 05:16 PM      Profile for Howard Johnson   Email Howard Johnson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks Joe, that's r e a l l y useful. Before the end of the film it would have fallen off the reel. We can only get about 140 mins on a reel, also the management want to sell more ice creams, pop corn, beer, and coffee in the intermission.

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Joe Redifer
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 - posted 01-08-2003 06:44 PM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I figured I was helpful. To be honest the movie is pretty boring, so just about anywhere is a good place for an intermission if you must have one. I think there is one scene where the reels change yet the scene continues. That's probably not very helpful either. [Frown]

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Brad Miller
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 - posted 01-09-2003 01:00 AM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
You will want to put the intermission between reels 1 and 2. That way your show will be spit up like this:

PART ONE
Trailers and reel 1

PART TWO
Reel 2-9

This way once everyone sees what a terrible film it is, they will walk out before you have to bother threading up the second half. [Big Grin]

If you don't think that will work, then I would just recommend you find a reel change that isn't a continuation of a scene. Really Joe is right, this movie is so boring that it won't matter too much where you put it. (Sorry I couldn't offer a great solution here. Maybe someone else can.)

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Howard Johnson
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 - posted 01-10-2003 01:53 PM      Profile for Howard Johnson   Email Howard Johnson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Joe and Brad you were right about the film! I'd had enough after reel 1 . I put the intermission at end or reel 4 - 72 mins. in but all the places seemed to be in the middle of scenes. They have booked it for 3 weeks , but I don't see it lasting that long.

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Michael Brown
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 - posted 01-10-2003 05:34 PM      Profile for Michael Brown   Email Michael Brown   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I watched it today.

I missed the reel 4--->5 reel change. (I saw the others grrr) I was trying to see it because I was looking myself to find a good place for an intermission since I will be running this on my tower in a few months.

EDIT: BTW I thought it was a good film!
Better than any of that LOTR rubbish.

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Jack Ondracek
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quote:
from Michael Brown:
...BTW I thought it (GONY) was a good film!
Better than any of that LOTR rubbish.

That LOTR rubbish made our Christmas. ...must say something about our blue-collar, flag-waving military county, I guess [Big Grin]

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Howard Johnson
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 - posted 01-15-2003 01:47 PM      Profile for Howard Johnson   Email Howard Johnson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Michael. It needs to be on end of reel 5 which is about 90 mins. in. I found that on end of reel 4 it breaks into a dialogue sequence.

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Charles Everett
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Randy Stankey
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 - posted 02-12-2003 01:59 PM      Profile for Randy Stankey   Email Randy Stankey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
This just occurred to me. I don't know if anybody has thought of this before or not: Why don't the film companies supply an "intermission reel"?

Let's say that the movie is nine reels...
They could edit reel five (or whatever reel they think it should be) so that the sound and picture fade out to black/silence. Theaters that DON'T have to have an intermission would simply cut 24 frames after the cue dot, just as they should. The fade-out wouldn't be shown. At the start of reel six (or whatever the chosen reel is) there would be NO fade-in. This is for the benefit of the majority of theaters who don't have intermissions. As far as they are concerned there is nothing different except for the fact that there's some extra film to cut off at the tail of reel five.

Now, for the theaters that DO have intermissions, there would be a replacement reel six that has a fade-in. Not only that, there could be a special edit of the movie to provide a "refresher" to the audience... A) So that they can remember the plot from Act 1. B) So that people who get caught standing in line at the concession stand have a few extra minutes to get back to their seats and still not miss much of the Act 2.

The main idea is that theaters who don't have an intermission wouldn't have to do anything different. (At least nothing major.) Theaters who DO have an intermission would simply call for the "intermission reel".

I can't see this scheme costing THAT much to put into effect. How many theaters have intermissions? Furthermore, for the ones that do, it would eliminate a lot of the whining that movie companies do in regard to "unauthorized" intermissions or "editing" of the movie.

Furthermore... If you REALLY want to, an intermission reel would be a PERFECT place to stick in more advertising! Not to say that I'm in favor of ads but if the movie companies are complaining about cost they could use the ad revenue to offset the cost. (Besides... Most of the customers would be going to the BATHROOMS, wouldn't they? [Wink] )

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