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Author Topic: How Do I use Kelmar Film Cleaner Don Bruechert Mmmmmmmmm, bird! Posts: 340 From: Manitowoc, WI, USA Registered: Jan 2003 posted 01-17-2003 01:12 PM                        Another newbie question on my quest to do things right.... We have the Kelmar dry media film cleaner in our facility that is referred to in various info docs on this site. I would like to begin using it - I would like to fix a lot of the wrong things I have been shown from the very little that anybody bothered to show me - this site has been VERY educational for me. I have found all the docs that show the parts diagrams, and I know which of our projectors have the mounting brackets and how to mount the unit. I am intelligent enough to follow the little line diagram telling me how to run the film through it as well. What I can't figure out is the media part, and how it is driven. I've spun the large film pulley by hand and nothing moves on the unit. I can't tell which roller the media should start on - I don't know if the media has been rewound or is at the end of its travel. We have a whole box of media for it, and the media is currently installed, so I know how it is supposed to go on there, but if I put on a new roll I don't know which side to put the fresh roll on when setting it up. Can anyone point me at an online document that will help with this? I've tried Kelmar's web site but that document appears to be conveniently offline. Thank you.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 01-17-2003 03:02 PM                     Click on the "Filmguard" link on the left. On that page is a picture of the machine loaded up and ready to run. Remember that the media will advance VERY slowly, so you will have to spin the large drive wheel a few dozen times to see the media creep along. If you are not sure if it is working, put a small ink mark on each media, spin the large drive wheel by hand for about 30 seconds or so and see if the marks move. If they don't, then you are missing the rubber inserts in the takeup shafts or they are not being compressed to grab the takeup core. (You did tighten down the thumbscres finger tight, right?)  |  IP: Logged Aldo Baez Master Film Handler Posts: 266 From: USA Registered: Mar 2001 posted 01-18-2003 12:40 AM                    Does anyone know where you can get these rubber inserts besides a supplier I mean would they be available at say home depot?  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 01-18-2003 08:04 AM                     The rubber inserts are not as common as they look to be! God knows we have looked. Home Depot definately does not have them (Think rubber hose). We have found a very good sub but only for the black Film-Tech cores. Ours are a little oversized, just like the FT cores. The material we found turned out to be not plain old rubber and does cost a bit (not as much as Kelmar) but still more than logic would dictate based on the size of the thing. We sent Brad a sample pair to try out. Steve  |  IP: Logged Steve Kraus Film God Posts: 4094 From: Chicago, IL, USA Registered: May 2000 posted 01-18-2003 12:59 PM                    Yes, in the booth supplies aisle at Home Depot. <sorry>  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 01-18-2003 05:02 PM                        I buy lots of booth supplies at Home Depot. Paper tape, white boards, floor mops, elastic bands, etc.  |  IP: Logged Steve Kraus Film God Posts: 4094 From: Chicago, IL, USA Registered: May 2000 posted 01-18-2003 06:44 PM                    Paper tape as in the white artist's tape to hold down film ends? I've always had a hard time finding that stuff even at art supply stores. (Fortunately there are online vendors.) That would be great if H.D. had it but I'm guessing you mean something else.  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 01-18-2003 07:12 PM                        I have bought the tape you speak of, paper tape, at Home Depot before. AFAIK the Canadian and American stores stock nearly the same stuff. I last bought some in October, next time I'm there I'll see if they still have it. Another place I've bought paper tape before is 'Michaels'... an artist / craft type store.  |  IP: Logged Chris Markiewicz Expert Film Handler Posts: 209 From: Glenaviegh, County Tipperary, Ireland Registered: Aug 2002 posted 01-18-2003 10:51 PM                     For the film cleaner rubber inserts, automotive fuel hose works well and is available from any good auto parts store (even NAPA!) Paper tape can also be found at some music stores or audio rental stores (used as "board tape" for sound mixers etc.) Office supply stores sometimes have it as well.  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 01-18-2003 11:39 PM                        The upside of using board tape is that you can get it in lots of pretty colors!  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-19-2003 12:05 AM                        I've never had a problem getting the paper-type masking tape from a local art-supply store. They sell grease pencils there, too, and their prices are lower than most mail-order places (not to mention that there is no shipping charge).  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 01-19-2003 12:57 AM                     Don, you are from my home town! WAY TO GO!!!!! Welcome to Film-Tech. You already discovered Film-Tech to be the home of great people and craftsmen of their trade.  |  IP: Logged John Hawkinson Film God Posts: 2273 From: Cambridge, MA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 01-19-2003 03:23 PM                     Huh. I wonder where Scott shops. I had problems finding anybody who sold Permacel paper tape in Boston; last time I order it was $3.25/roll from buytape.com (for 3/4" rolls). --jhawk  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-19-2003 03:52 PM                        Johnson Art Supply on Newbury St. I think the cost is in the $3-4 range, although it's been a while since I stocked up. The tape is on the second floor. It's some no-name brand (not Permacel), but works just as well.  |  IP: Logged Steve Kraus Film God Posts: 4094 From: Chicago, IL, USA Registered: May 2000 posted 01-19-2003 09:57 PM                    Actually, Michaels was one of the places I expected to find it but didn't.  |  IP: Logged

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